In this podcast, emphasizes a holistic approach to health, focusing on the importance of understanding body chemistry and moving beyond traditional calorie-counting methods. It highlights how individualized health strategies, such as fasting, nutrition, and supplementation, can empower people to take control of their wellness. The shift toward natural alternatives to pharmaceutical treatments is also explored, including the use of psychedelics and CBD for healing, particularly for PTSD, chronic pain, and anxiety.

The impact of sleep optimization, alcohol on rest, and supplements like creatine and vitamin D3 for athletes is also covered. Hormonal health, particularly for women during perimenopause, is addressed, with a focus on restoring balance to alleviate symptoms and improve overall well-being. Self-awareness, accountability, and natural healing methods are key themes, offering valuable insights into making informed health choices for long-term wellness.

Highlights of the Podcast

00:02 - Dr. Matt Chalmers' Approach to Health

00:59 - Dr. Chalmers’ Personal Journey

03:17 - The Importance of Self-Education

04:18 - The Role of Biochemistry in Healing

06:13 - The Importance of Learning About Your Own Body

08:53 - Current Health Trends and the Need for Change

10:12 - RFK’s Influence and Changing Public Perception

14:03 - Dr. Chalmers’ Daily Health Practices

19:01 - Sleep Challenges

22:42 - Giving Up Alcohol for Health

25:08 - Essential Supplements

30:24 - Psychedelics and CBD for Healing

34:35 - Challenges with Psychedelics and Cannabis

38:47 - Perimenopause and Hormonal Imbalances

42:33 - Testosterone's Impact on Relationships

45:58 - Dr. Chalmers’ Approach to Health

50:27 - Empowering Clients for Transformation

53:22 - Closing Remarks

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:02] The number one thing that people are getting wrong is that your body doesn't run on calories. It runs on chemistry. My goal is to change the way that we look at health care, to actually change the way that we do things. I want to teach you how to build, how your body works, how to figure out how your body works, and then how to build a diet based on your body. You can have the pizza and the ice cream in the cookies and things like that, but I'm going to teach you how to make them chemically so it is more beneficial to you. But now you understand. So you don't you're not beholden on somebody to give you diet plans or meal plans all the time. You know how to make yourself. If I can teach you how to be healthy, you can teach your kids how to be healthy. And now we've started changing the whole the whole dynamic. You know, we don't need the drugs. We don't need the labels. They need we don't need those. We just need to get the baby chemically healthier the way it was designed to be. And so when you're trying to figure out how to gain muscle or lose fat or make the body function the way it's supposed to, you've got to go back to the chemistry. You know, there's there's so much that goes into losing fat, gaining muscle. And so that's one of the big things that we always go to.

Scott Danner [00:00:59] Just in briefly understanding your story. You were an athlete in high school. You had an episode where you couldn't even walk and you were struggling to perform, and it really set you on this course to want to be a doctor, to help people in ways that went beyond the the medicines of just handing them something, but really healing them. And and so when it comes to athletes, there are things they can control. So just for for the listeners, brief background of how you got into the space that you're in, I think that always helps. And then maybe some of the things that you're working with people to help them stay in control of the things that they can control.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:01:40] Yes, sir. When I was in high school, I hurt my back and I couldn't walk. My parents had to carry me around. And, yeah, we went and saw, you know, everyone who had a license to say, you know, orthopedic surgeons, neurosurgeons, you, pain specialist, radiologist, everybody. And finally, they saw at the time, I'm six feet tall, 250 pounds, an interesting 400 pounds of squatting, 600 pounds. And they said this kid who's like five, six, looks like he's never seen the sun, 120 pounds or something. Like just this little tiny, scrawny guy. He's like, Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you. You just want to play football anymore. And so this is your way out. And I remember looking at me like, if I could reach you, I break you. And I was so pass like this. And this is one of the reason I tell people no athlete should see a non-athlete doctor because they just don't get it. They just don't understand your mental space where you're at, like the sacrifices you've made. Like my entire life I've been at this point, like, you know, every day in the summer for six hours, I'd be at the gym at 6 a.m.. I wouldn't leave till noon. Like that was my life. Like, so just tell me that I just didn't want to be there anymore as well. So then, you know, so I was like, Alright, fine, whatever. So I called my coach was like, Man, I can't play anymore. I can't even walk. He goes, Go see our team chiropractor. And I'm like, And I need a doctor, not a massage. There's like, just go. And it was like, whatever. So my parents, like, carried me and he takes the same x ray that the MDs had for like an hour and a half klicks up because, it's right there at a just me. And I got out in hollowed out. And I was like, all right. I went back to practice three days later and I was like, okay, there's something to this. And so that, you know, I've always been one of those guys where you can tell me something and I'm like, All right, I want to figure out this for myself. The trust but verify thing for the guys who are.

Scott Danner [00:03:17] Hardheaded and kind of kind of hardheaded. But yes, I got it the same way.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:23] Very hardheaded. I'm like, if I don't understand something you told me, like, I'll go with it until I can understand it. So I go and I got adjusted and I was like, okay, well, you know, maybe there's something to this. And I started learning more about it and that kind of put me on this path of, you know, just because somebody says that's the way something works doesn't mean that's how it works. And so that's been kind of set me up for all the things to be able to do. And so it's just always been, you know, one of the things I learned from sports and why I'm such a big sports advocate is you can have anything you want if you're willing to work for it. That's the thing I learned from sports. And so, you know, going through and figuring out, you know, okay, Wolf, I want to really want know how the body works. I just got to read. And so for about a decade, I'd wake up. But I've woken up at 4 a.m. and I'll read medical research for a couple of hours, and it's been able to give me lots and lots of insight on how the body actually works and getting where we need to go. And so, you know, that kind of who you create, you know, on the field is kind of what's kind of driven me to where I am now.

Scott Danner [00:04:18] That's awesome. Well, I'm a firm believer in it. I have one of my sons plays for a soccer academy. The other one's a division one college soccer player right now. So this has been the way of our lives. And funny enough, my youngest son, when he first went up to the academy at 14, he had all these his caps were locking up. And we went to a a doctor, a chiropractic doctor, who does a lot of lots of what I would call it, holistic medicine, not just, you know, medicine, where they're looking for a problem to look at how you how you can not play the sport, but something that they can get you back on the field. And, you know, it was it was the advice that that he was given the the consistent appointments that he's had down to like having a hamstring, a small hamstring. I don't want to say tear but let's let's just say as a small tear and and he goes in and he's like, yeah did you take a take a shot to your your cap the other day because I feel like this severe bruising here and this is impacting your your hamstring and here's how and it's teaching him all these ways to be aware and to be out in front and to learn that at 1415 years old versus waiting until you're 27 and your $20 million contract depends upon whether or not your hamstrings running or not is so valuable. So you're preaching to the choir of believers right here, my man. I mean, I am 100% on board. What are some of the things that that your that you're spending a lot of time on today that are that are, you know, maybe cutting edge or something that you're seeing a lot of that you tend to have conversations that are really game changing for people. Is there anything that comes to mind when you're when you're thinking about their wellness, their health, that that continues to pop up?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:06:13] You know, just go back to the biochemistry has always been something we've been doing. I still have a lot better results with concussions than a lot of the other docs around here do because, you know, the first thing is, you know, we want to go back and look, okay, what's going on with the brain? So hyperbaric oxygen, to me, the number one thing we're going to do, increase the oxygenation of the tissue by thousand percent will increase. Methylated folic acid. Yeah. We'll go through. There's a whole biochemical path we go through with with concussion stuff that nobody else really does because they view it like and there's a lot of things that where we people view things and it's just totally wrong. Like the idea of a concussion is a bruise on the brain. A bruise in the brain is a hemorrhagic stroke and you're going to die from that. So it's not a bruise in the brain biochemical issue. And so going back and fix you, fixing the biochemistry has really been a big thing. That's been a big deal. And then the thing that gets me in the most trouble when I talk to people about it is if you look at the body as a chemical machine, the first thing you're going to find out as far as the things that the number one thing that people are getting wrong is that your body doesn't run on calories. It runs on chemistry, runs on it in triphosphate, not calories. And so when you're trying to figure out how to gain muscle or lose fat or make the body function the way it's supposed to, you've got to go back to the chemistry. And so that's one of the big things that we always go to is, you know, where's your where's your methylation function, Where's your supplementation piece? Are you getting enough sleep? You know, there's there's so much that goes into losing fat, gaining muscle and becoming a high performance athlete outside of just, you know, the workouts and the lifting that that that's really where a lot of this key stuff is is where's the chemistry that's going in your body. So that's that's really the biggest thing that we we work with. That's all the different is that we actually work on the chemistry of the body.

Scott Danner [00:07:49] That's great. Yeah. It's so interesting. As I've aged, I've changed so many things and in some ways I'm healthier today than I was a decade ago. And it's it's based on wisdom. It's based on knowledge. It's not based on anything other than just opening up my brain, being curious, learning over the years of what works. Because I look at it like every car is a is, you know, is a little bit different. Like what you need to run it is a little bit different. And if you're built like a Ferrari and you run at 100 miles an hour everywhere you go and a lot of these athletes, a lot of the high performers that listen to this, even even moms that are that are high performers in the house that are doing full time jobs, plus running everything in the home like we have so many people that listen to this show that are high performers. You're running at a level that requires a different level of of care. And understanding what's important to your body is the start. And I think that's where you start as you really give people the education of their own body, right?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:53] Yeah. My my goal is because we were talked about earlier. My goal is to change the way that we look at health care, actually change the way that we do things. And so, like what My favorite thing to do is to bring people and be like, all right, I'm going to teach you how the body works. Like, I'm going to teach you how to build, how your body works, how to figure out how your body works, and then how to build a diet based on your diet, based on your body that you can have. You can have the pizza and the ice cream and the cookies and things like that, but I'm going to teach you how to make them chemically so it is more beneficial to you. But now you understand. So you don't you're not beholden on somebody to give you diet plans or meal plans all the time. You know how to make it yourself. You know how to exercise for your body. Like, you know, the deficits that you have. So like, again, you look at some of the DNA stuff, the TR, the MTF are these little deletions where we need help with methylation. Well, you know, there's a lot of parts of your body that don't work, right because of what happened to your genetics. If you understand that and you can take the supplementation to overcome them. It's really, really nice. But my whole goal is if I can teach you how to be healthy parents, you can teach your kids how to be healthy. And now we've started changing the whole the whole dynamic. You know, we don't need the drugs. We don't need the labels of ADHD. We don't need those things. We just need to get the baby chemically healthier the way it was designed to be. And it's been making a lot of progress. And I'm really, really excited about.

Scott Danner [00:10:12] Yeah, I've done all of the the DNA testing, I've done the the microbiome testing. I mean, I, I've done everything that I can and I'm still learning every single day with, you know, I feel like the conversation's becoming mainstream to to some extent right now. It's really interesting because RFK was running this campaign and he comes out and now he's like, throw him blows. yeah that at the the the industry. And it's stuff that we all know but we've never heard someone of that stature of that status actually lay it out. I mean the cigaret companies buying up all the food companies, adding addictive materials to the food so that the pop tarts and the Oreo cookies that you and I ate in 1994 are not the same Oreo cookies and pop tarts that they're feeding the children today. So when moms are saying, we all grew up on it, it's not the same. The McDonald's not fries, not the same. Like, how do you feel about the current environment? Because I feel like this is so pertinent right now. But I it's almost to me I'm sitting on the sidelines going, man, I've been waiting for this. Please, somebody change the trajectory of our culture. How are you feeling? The same way. What? What stands out to you?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:11:31] I am such a big RFK that I am so, so happy that he's he's going to come in and he's going to help make some positive change. But yeah, that's been that's been the thing forever. And we've been screaming about it for so long and nobody's ever was like, that's not how it is. And the great thing is that RFK is just such a badass. Like he'll say, I'm like, Here's the fact. And be like, If I was Lion, I get sued. Is I? But no one suing me because this is a fact. And you're like, well, I guess that's right. And so they start looking into it. But, you know, I think the funny thing is, is that, you know, I try as hard as I can to reframe everything but find the positives and the darkest negatives. And, you know, I think that, you know, at the time I couldn't see it, but I think Covid was probably one of the best things to happen for the for the for the education of wellness and health, because we were told so many lies. There were blatant, obvious lies. And I think a lot of people sort of waking up being like, hold on, I don't I don't know if everything you guys didn't tell me is exactly accurate. And then it opened up the platform because people started looking for other other answers, other questions, other things and things like this sort of popping up the start. People start going, hold on now, maybe the things you told me about cholesterol were wrong. Maybe the things you told me about testosterone are wrong. Maybe the things you told me about, you know, psychedelics were wrong. Right? Because now we're starting to figure out, we've known since the 60s how to fix addiction. We've known how to fix PTSD. We just just couldn't make any money on it for pharmaceutical money. So they made it illegal. And that's, you know, as we started finding this stuff out, people are getting pissed. They're like, Tell me more things this once phenomenal because you can go through and be like, Look, quit looking at your cholesterol labs, echocardiogram going to CTA City angiogram, and that's all you need to know. If your heart like cholesterol has no bearing on cardiovascular health. And as people start to learn this type of stuff, you're seeing this massive swing away from pharmaceutical indoctrination into I want to learn how my body actually works and I want to learn what I should eat. I want to learn how to stay healthy. And so I think we're seeing the rise, what I like to call as the actual health care provider, the guys who are talking about hormones and nutrition and exercise and mental stress and stuff like that. We're providing actual health tests, not, when you're sick, take this drug. Like those are those are that's that's sick care if you want to call it that. But the health care function of how do you become healthier and you know better, the physical body, I think is really starting to come up. And that's been I'm so excited about that because that is that is my passion. That's the thing that I get super excited about. That's my whole goal is like I do a podcast every morning, like ten minutes, just trying to get as much information to people as I can. So that's awesome. Awesome to see.

Scott Danner [00:14:03] Yeah, my wife and I listen to RFK do his his speech that he did where he decided that he was going to step away and then also support President Trump. And in that presentation, he talked about Casey Mears and her new book, I think it's Mayors. It's her last name and the new book on, you know, the exploitation, how she was a Stanford educated doctor and she just gave it all up. And so my my wife and I spent a lot of time on the road going back and forth to our son who's living away from us. And we're listening to these podcasts. And it's we're both like, look at each other like, man, we've known so much of this stuff. We've been eating so well for so long because we can because we believe in this. Also because I had some issues with colitis and and, and gut issues that I started to realize once I took control over it and I started eating the things that were the right things, I started managing stress. I started doing things that I could regulate. A lot of this stuff you start to pay attention to, okay, what kind of meat are you putting in your body? Is it is it the right kind of steaks? We started buying from a local farm for steaks and chickens and I mean just all kinds of stuff. Then you start recognizing when you go out to eat, you're like, this chicken tastes like shit. It's awful. It's. It's garbage. I mean, and this is the kind of stuff you recognize. So someone like you who lives and breathes this, you know, it is exciting to to to feel like we're turning a corner to this holistic health care and not just reactive, but preventative, like, you know, just building that the the curiosity to learn about the machine, the chemistry of the machine, as you were talking about. You know, I, I love it. What are some of the things that you do every day that that are like just non-negotiables? What are the things that, you know, you live and breathe this so how do you actually live it? You know, you teach it, but how do you live it?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:16:08] So it's funny because we start picking stuff up and we're like, my God. So I run a 20, a 23 one fast site once a day because I like the fasting thing. But the biggest piece about fasting is that it just makes my day so much easier. So like, I don't I don't have to worry about food the morning or at lunch. I can work out and the whole thing and then I'll, you know, I that one time. But I take a bunch of supplementation. The big thing on fasting people to understand is, again, we go back to the biochemistry. Your blood has to maintain sugar because it's the only way that can make ATP. So the only energy source your blood can use is glucose. And so your body has to regulate that. And so the problem we get into is that it has to make it out of protein. And so if you don't give your body collagen or protein or some source throughout the day, it'll eat your muscle tissues to get that protein to make the sugar. And so we start doing that. That's why that's why I take my collagen multiple times throughout the day. So I take all I methylated B vitamins and give you ten. The other thing about fasting is that yeah, your body doesn't need the proteins and the fats and the carbohydrates to run, but it still needs all the chemistry. So the methylated B virus, CoQ10, omega three is like all that type of stuff. I take those I'm really, really tight on my sleeping. So like I used to have epilepsy because I got damage from a vaccine when I was a baby. But what happened was that it would mess with my breathing at night. So I really bad apnea. And so when I finally figured that out, a sleep study figured it out. I got a CPAp and I have it hooked up to an oxygen concentrator. So I'm at 100% all night long and I have a sleep. Eight I monitor my REM and my deep sleep wakes out, all that type of stuff all throughout the day. And then I always work out at lunch for about an hour. And so those are those are kind of my things that I will always do because that's what keeps me where I need to be.

Scott Danner [00:17:53] Okay, wait. Ate sleep. So this is the cooling and the and and do you have the pod or the entire bed? Because I've been looking about purchasing this and I'm trying to figure out what I want. Do I want the bed or do I want the pod? Like the thing that goes on top of your already existing mattress? Right.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:18:10] So yes, I have a sleep number of bed, which I really like. So it's funny because like people always ask me like, what's the best bad am? I mean, I hate to be this guy, but it's the one you get the best sleep I like. My wife has a temper and I have a sleep number because that's what we give the best sleep. And then I have the topper that goes on the H sleep topper that goes on top. And that's out of all the ones I've tried, the sleep system that the topper piece is my favorite. But it's, it's cool because it's, it's full of water and so it's really easy to heat and cool you really, really well and it vibrates to help wake you up. It's it's such a cool system, but it looks at like horror variability looks at, you know, REM sleep, deep sleep movement, snoring. I get checks, it calculates all that stuff. And so it's been. That's a really cool system. So if you're looking at getting one, that is the I'll tell you the best system I've seen or used so that you're looking at buying one, that's the one they spend the money on.

Scott Danner [00:19:01] Yeah, we're definitely we have a sleep number right now and we're and we're we're we use it for years. We're looking at getting a new bed and then we're, we're also going to have that. I think we have two different temperatures. So my wife runs hot and I run cold. So like I'm I get in and I'm freezing all night. And she is. And that's partly because if you're listening to this, I'm bald. And it doesn't help you when you're when you're I don't have a ton of meat on my bones, but I'm also bald. And she is not she is not the same temperature. So we try to I it's interesting to me that we could actually have a temperature gauge between the two. And so our neighbor told us about it a long time ago and we're late to the party, so we might have to might have to pull that trigger.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:19:49] Yeah, I know it's cool because she can be you can you can turn your heat up and she can turn her cold up and it's it's awesome. So, I mean, as far as sleep systems go, it's one of the it's the best one we've ever seen. So you got you got to try that one out.

Scott Danner [00:20:00] But the value of sleep is really crucial. I started taping my mouth shut when I started to realize the value of breathing through my nose. And in in Dr. James Nestor, who I've met through my genius network, and he's done a couple of really good podcast. Joe Rogan was a great one if you want the quick version. But I started doing that. My sleep went through the roof comparatively to what it was all those years. And so, you know, little tiny things that we pay attention to that you track are so amazing and I think it makes a big difference.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:20:36] Well, the the biggest thing we talk about, like when I talked to people about how like they're not getting their musculature gains or their weight loss or fat loss are trying to do. And I always go first thing I go to is my tummy like your sleep like what am Mike look, you go to the gym to tear the muscle tissue down. You go to sleep to rebuild it all the healing regeneration recovery happens when you're asleep. If you're not dead set in your sleep, your gains, you're going to suffer seriously. So you've got to make sure that your sleep is set, a bedtime set, a wake time, make that really serious. You know, there's I do a whole meditation piece for people who they can call in right now, get off your cell phone. You get off all your devices 20, 30 minutes before you're trying to fall asleep. You know, is that your eyes or brain tissue? And it's going to change the way your brain functions. So there's a whole big piece to it. But, you know, a lot of people are overlooking their sleep because they're like, I'll just I'll get some sleep tomorrow. No, there is no sleep tomorrow. There's gains tonight. Like that's that's how you're going to do this. And so, like, that's been a really big piece. I usually start with sleep because it's something that people really overlook because they just think they don't. They are all just I mean, I don't have time. You're not gonna get your games then. So sleep is a big one.

Scott Danner [00:21:45] It is every. I wear a woop. I don't know if you wear a wearable, but I have. I have a woohp. I've tried the aura ring. I don't love it as much as I like the Woohp. I've been wearing the Woohp since 2019. And when you wear something for that long, you start to notice trends and things that change. I've talked about on the show before, but probably from like 44 to 46, 43 to 46. The biggest change I've noticed is how alcohol impacts my sleep. And it always has, I'm sure. But the level of just small amounts. And the older I get, the less I mean, it is it is drastic to the point where I'm like sitting, having a glass of wine going, All right, I really want this wine with the steak, but I need to make sure that I have three hours before I'm ready to go to bed because I know that that will maximize my ability to sleep. And I'm thinking these things through, which changes the whole dynamic of how you make decisions.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:22:42] That knowledge should like. The more you know the difference you should have. Like I quit drinking. I quit drinking last year for the for the bodybuilding thing. And after about six months, I was like, why was I drinking so long? Like, I. I can't remember like, all the time. Like, there's probably a handful of times where the alcohol made the situation better. And there's a giant number of times the alcohol made the situation less, less appealing. So yeah, I started there and I was like, I'm done with the alcohol thing. But on the wine, one of the big things people don't understand is that if you're buying wine from this country, you're getting toxins in your wine. So you get the malbec from Argentina, get the stuff from Europe. Italy's Italy's probably the best country for laws on on toxins that you're going to drink the wine. Italian. You know, Argentina don't drink this stuff from the U.S. because they've got all sorts of they legally have to put stuff in it that is toxic. So don't do that.

Scott Danner [00:23:33] I can I can attest to it. I did not give up drinking six months ago. But what I or a year ago, what I could tell you is on the Italian wines, I've been to Italy a couple of times in the last year and two and we've gone back and forth and then brought back or shipped back a ton of wine. And if I drink the Italian wine, it's a completely different experience. It still doesn't impact your sleep. Great. But it's not the same impact. The toxins are substantial. So, you know, it's it's Italian wine is the way to go. I love I love a good malt piano. So you're not get that's that's I got to figure out how to how to level that that down with the steak or whatever we're eating. But definitely the sleep is is important and it does make for a game changer and how you feel the next day, how you cycle into the next day. All that stuff is so important when when you're looking at athletes and you're you're talking about there's so many different supplements, performance enhancing drugs, all these things are hot topics at all times. What what are the supplements? An NCAA has certain rules for what athletes can take. Pros have certain roles. How do you advise is there some like is there some core level of I can always do this, we can always do this creatine, we could always do this this college in we can always do. And are there some edgier things that you're paying attention to that we may see kind of hit the mainstream? Just curious.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:25:08] So obviously, the Christian's a big piece. Especially the funny thing is people have been talking about muscle creations like that with creation for a long time, but it's highly neuroprotective. Like it's funny because like, we'll get we'll get moms and here these teenage kids are playing football and like, I don't know about Christian and like you, your son definitely just be like religion. Like why I am like, well, it'll help grow muscle, but it's highly neuroprotective. So they get a concussion, they're going to heal much faster. And moms are always like I the Grinch in that because it's that one's a big one.

Scott Danner [00:25:34] Is there is there a certain creatine that you you recommend or is there anything do you have a site that people can go to to kind of look at your supplements or your recommended supplements?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:25:43] Yeah. So pillars of all news.com is where all the stuff I take is on there. Okay. And I take a I took a bunch of stuff but like, so all the pre workouts and stuff that I take are on there. And then the fun thing is, is that right now the, the profits from that goes to my charity to help we use psychedelics and ketamine to break PTSD and addictions and veterans and first responders. So if you guys are looking for a place to get supplements, pillars almost like at least help out a lot of veterans and first responders. But so D3 is also a big one. So again, D3 is not a vitamin, it's a hormone D3. So the definition of a vitamin is essential nutrient that cannot be made in the body. D3 is made in the body, so it can't be a part of it. There's a lot of new research is calling it a hormone, which is good for tracking that out, but that helps move ions around the body. So the reason why it's good for your immune system, your bones or anything else is because it directs calcium, magnesium, potassium, all those things where they need to go. The other big one that people like, people talk about protein a lot and that's great. Like protein. Fantastic. Yeah, There's there's lots of proteins that are out there find the problem is that your body doesn't want protein, it wants amino acids. And so if you're talking about building muscle tissue, leucine, an ISO leucine are the two most important ones you can get, which is why everybody likes way, because way has a giant concentration of leucine in whey protein. But so branching amino acids are probably the best options. Like soon as I get done working out, I'll take two scoops of the ranch chain amino acids that are on the site. And then right before I go to bed again, because that's when you regenerate, heal. I'll take another two scoops of branched chains right before I go to bat. Omega three fatty acids are super important for inflammatory function and then depending on. So we start talking about so NCAA and the in the pros have one set of standards and then everybody else has the other. And so, you know, when you start talking about taking, you know, the testosterone and the peptides and stuff like that, one of the things you have to understand is that one of the reasons that they're, quote unquote bad for your liver is because they're asking your liver to to work. Order. And so if you want to be able to take some of these things like Winstrol antibody, like some of these orals are really, really on this list. You've got to really upregulate the nutrients to your liver so that it doesn't create damage. So methylated B6 is a big one. We've got to increase. You know, I like to use Tujuh, which is a special bile acid and then the coffee enemas are a great option for a lot of this stuff to decrease inflammation and heal the liver. And so depending on how much you supercharge the engine, you've got to work on the cooling and the airflow and everything else that goes to it. So, you know, that's one of the big things you are not recognizing when they're taking a soft throne or any of the other antigens. Is that exactly how they're playing with the rest of the system? So those are those are some of the big ones. And then the biggest one we're seeing right now is the Semaglutide and the JLP. Once the problem we get into with those is that we've given metabolic tools to people who don't understand metabolic chemistry. So and the biggest piece of this is that if someone's talking about calories, they shouldn't be allowed to use JLP once. Because what you have to understand is that GLP one is one of the things they first do the intestines, they inhibit the absorption of sugar, which means again your blood has to have sugar, so it has to make it so it makes out of proteins. This is why the vast majority of people who are losing weight with JLP wins and semaglutide, you know, something like that, they're losing muscle tissue because their body is trying to replace the sugar. It's no longer getting by eating your muscle tissues to create the sugar. So you've got to radically increase the proteins in the collagen in these people, bring their testosterone levels up so they can heal, regenerate, repair, and then have them do something exercise wise to keep the muscle tissue active. So we're rebuilding muscle tissue. So there's a couple of pieces in this that we're seeing normal stuff for people just haven't gotten the chemistry. And so they're in people are having problems. So probably the other biggest one is I try to pull as long as I can. It's like the rules are okay with it. I try to pull people off your anti-inflammatories or NSAIDs or Tylenol or Advil and get them onto a low dose CBD like CBD or cannabis, because generally at a Ted talk on this, cannabis replaces opioids for pain modulation 64% of the time, and the vast majority time it doesn't work is like when we're talking about fitness for surgery. So if you hurt, if your body's aching, a small dose of cannabis even not enough to get you high will get tremendous benefits as far as pain and anxiety and stuff like that. So those are some of things we always try to work our athletes into is what's the best chemical for your body's chemistry to actually get your goals where you want to go in the safest manner possible. So we have the longest longevity life. That's the big piece I think people are looking at is how does my chemistry work with the foods and the solvents I'm taking?

Scott Danner [00:30:24] That's. Yeah, that's huge. And notice I, you know, for the listeners out there, we we we talk about things that are obviously on the cutting edge of healing from the PTSD healing with with ketamine and some of the other psychedelics to the cannabis and the CBD that are healing with with pain. You know this is stuff that how is that being received today comparatively to five, ten years ago? Are you feeling like we're making the inroads where that can be the conversation that actually leads us in the right direction? Or are you still hitting a wall as you try to break through into what we know works that we're ignoring?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:10] The terrorist is making giant strides. And, you know, the cannabis thing always goes back to Charlotte. If you remember the stories ten or so years ago of the firefighter whose daughter was having all the seizures and the drugs weren't working and they started giving her cannabis and the seizures stop, the dad got arrested because he was in the wrong state to help your kids. And so they had to move to Colorado. And after that, people were like, hold on. Like this little girl actually was getting better and is doing more and more research. And so that's been really helpful as people started coming out then like, hey, you know, the cannabis is helping me with my PTSD. The veterans who come out and talk about it like people tell them, Hey, I don't have to use opioids anymore. As people started getting more educated and the stigma and the lies around that have been broken down. I think people are starting to realize maybe there's something to this, like that's been beneficial. And then, you know, like the biggest thing is helping with the psychedelics. You were coming out and talking about like, I haven't you haven't heard a whole lot of horror stories. You've heard tremendous greatness. You know, I did a talk on this at a seminar and a veteran came up to me afterwards and goes, I'm alive today because academy. I was like, yeah. And he was like, Yeah, here's I was planning on killing myself on Saturday. This, like, totally nonchalant. Like, this is just a normal thing to be able to do. He was like, And then when my platoon buddies wanted me to go to ketamine with him on a Wednesday because, you know, he just didn't want to do it alone, he leans in, he's like, Because I mean, what you're going to do, kill me? And I was like, That's the most awkward. I don't know how to respond. Like he was still like to this day, I'm still, like, awkward because I don't know what to say to that, right? But so he comes in, he was like, so the first one I did, he goes, It didn't fix me. He was like, But it took 20% off. He's like, So imagine you're laying on the ground. You have 1,045 pound plates on your chest. You see somebody comes, it takes two away is like you can still feel the eight is like, but the two that left, you can definitely notice. He's like, So is I. That gave me hope. So I went back and I did ten more times is like and now I don't have PTSD and everything's great. And so when people start hearing stories like that and the question is, what else do we have? Like, if you name it, what else? Fix is PTSD? And you were like, Nothing, but we'll go try this. It's it's legal. It's all over the place. Like just Google ketamine near me and like, there's a bunch of mental work I like to put people through before they go anywhere they can so they know how to deal with it better, but that it is so much better. Like I've talked to guys and I'm like, How bad is your pizza? And I know what all like guns tasted like that tells you anything. Like, every day I had to come up with a reason not to kill myself. And they went clean. And four weeks later, they're totally. And that's it's not like a ten year process. It's like, you know, you do four or 5 or 6 of these sessions and it can be you can be over in a month. Like these guys are like, it's 90% of it's got like 90%. My problems gone in a month. And same thing. We have the same stories with addiction. And so, like the more people who are talking about this, the more people who are willing to try it and the more people who are going and even like you said, the mom's like, you don't have to be shot at. You know, you don't have to see horrible things. You know, the divorces that you know, the fight it like everybody's got financial strain right now. Everybody's had a bad breakup. Everybody's worried about their kids. Everybody has this giant daily stress that's just beating in your skull. This stuff helps reset that because it lifts all the neurotransmitters at once and let your brain kind of reset the default neural state. And it's it's a phenomenal tool along with talk therapy to really, really, really get people back where they need to go. And the more people who try it, more people we can talk about it, the better we're going to get it. So it's been fantastic you just talking.

Scott Danner [00:34:35] What what types of challenges are they seeing? Are there any negative effects, other things that that research is showing? I know the positives. Are there anything that that is there? Is it do they have to worry about any level of addiction to these types of drugs or anything? I know that's what people are thinking. I I've had lots of conversations about this, but I think for the listeners, that's probably what the next thing on their mind is. Okay, this is all the positives. But Dr. Matt, what, what do we got on the negative side?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:35:03] Well so you can get addicted to anything. Like if you Google, people get addicted to eating toilet paper. So there's there's not a thing that's totally non addictive. Right? So like there's going to be that and it's all my story. So when I went and did it because I was like, I don't want to talk about stuff unless I have personal experience, I don't if I find that low integrity. And so I went and did it. And he asked me, he's like, What's wrong with you? And like, nothing. My life is awesome. This is like something is every time I finally got anxiety. Well, what I didn't realize at the time was I did have PTSD. My heart rate had been in the 90s for 20 years after a car wreck I had. And I when I figured out how to treat Covid, we were pulling people out of hospitals to treat them. So it messed up my heart and so my heart was beating way too hard every time I lay down. And I literally just decided that's apparently how I'm going to die, like sooner or later. So for 18 months, I'd lay down. My heart would be to heart. So I go in, I do the ketamine, and we're like, You're going to have so much fun. You're going to see all these things. It's amazing. You're going to have so much fun. It was not fun. I mean, it wasn't a bad time at it, which I didn't. I didn't it was fun. And then as I as I started coming down, I got super sick. Like, I mean, flu sick, right? So, like, I'm throwing up. Like, I feel like I'm just, like, super, like, weak. It was miserable. Like, my, my my dad took me, drove me home. And I'm just like, I just got to get that. I can just get in bed, sleep this off. I'll be okay. Like I was miserable and I lay down and as soon as I lay down was the first time in 18 months when I lay down, I couldn't feel my heart beating. I was like, Well, that's interesting. So I go to sleep. I wake up the next morning and I take my pulse ox and it's first time I've seen my heart rate in the 60s for 20 years. So my experience was that one time did great things for me. Objective measurements for cardiovascular function from what we call sympathetic Escape the Sea. But man, I was sick. I did not enjoy it. It was not fun. There's, you know, anything you can have a reaction to anything like, you know, people eat peanuts and die. So there's going to be these weird things where somebody does it and they have a heart issue. But if you do it in the doctor's office, you do it in a clinical setting. Like the way I did it, they monitor everything heart rate, blood pressure, like all this stuff. Your blood pressure is coming up a little bit. Give you some stuff, bring your blood pressure back down or your heart rates too high. You know, we'll tachycardic. We'll give you something to drop it back down so they can monitor it. It's very, very safe in a clinical environment if you're just like having to grab some of the stuff and do it at a party. Probably a horrible idea. But I think that yeah, I'd like to say that, but I think most people like, yeah, doing therapy at a party is probably a bad plan to begin with.

Scott Danner [00:37:30] Yeah, it's not for friends. Dropping DMT together at a at a psychedelic concert with the Grateful Dead is what you're saying now.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:37:38] It's it's so it's a little bit different but you know those are those are some of the things that, you know, have been really, really beneficial. The you're going to see some stuff like a lot of people see things. One of the guys that we were working with, I didn't I wasn't part of this that he was telling me about it. He had a repressed memories of PTSD. He couldn't figure out why he was a medic in the military. And he put people together, put them on a helicopter, a helicopter takes off a helicopter, got hit by an RPG, blows up like all those guys he knew he just put back together, obviously died and he repressed that. Now, when he went through the psychedelic process, that memory came back out and it was not fun for him. It was horrible to relive that sort of thing. But once it was out, it was gone. And so, you know, that really helps with PTSD. So there are some things you might see you don't want to see. There's some things that you might not want to relive that you go through. But as far as long term negative health risks, there's very, very few. Like it's going to be that rare thing where you you just happened to be allergic to this. And we did not like that type of a thing. But again, if you do it in a clinical setting, most are subject to be able to come out with just fine.

Scott Danner [00:38:47] That's awesome. Right. We're covering some really cool stuff. And this is fun to listen to. I know just as someone having the conversation, so I hope everyone's enjoying listening to this while we're while we're having it. But we have a lot of you know, I'm in my 40s. I have a lot of friends in in the same age demographic. And for our wives, for our friends, wives, their their their friends at the gym, they're all kind of talking about perimenopause. They're talking about, you know, this pre-menopausal decade that no one's ever talked about. No one's ever given the grace to women about the hormonal imbalance. Is the challenges of the body changing? There certainly are very few husbands out there that really understand what's happening while it's happening, but it's happening. And I'm just curious, as far as you know, we talked about some of the PTSD. We talked about some of the other things that you're seeing. What what are some of the things that that this demographic can pay attention to that might be helping them? Anything that that you're seeing or advising in your space?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:39:56] Absolutely. So, again, we've the way we classify things damages a lot of thinking. Testosterone being a male hormone is probably the worst thing that you can think of. So here's the fun thing. So we'll get women in all the time. And I love working on couples because the guys and the women will come in and they'll sit and they kind of sit like just normal, like sing straight up and then we'll talk to them like, how's this? How's that? And they're like, Well, I have hot flashes, night sweats, vaginal dryness, my libidos low, I energy slow. I'm getting fat like that will pull their blood and we'll raise these women's testosterone levels back up. And I one of the things I always tell there's a story I always tell them is I had a 52 year old woman come and got her on testosterone. She comes back in a couple months later and she's like, hey, she's I had one of the craziest orgasms I had last night and a long time. She just was that from the testosterone. I was like, Yeah, just You didn't even tell her that she was you need to lead with that next side. And so, like, it's so much fun because what happens is that when these women get the testosterone back where they're supposed to, testosterone naturally converts into estrogen. And so the hot flashes, the night sweats, the vaginal dryness can all go away and you get your libido back and you get your energy back and you get to build your muscle tissue back and you get your bone density back and your mental clarity by raising that testosterone is up where they're supposed to be. So here's the fun thing. So I told you, these couples come and they sit like kind of straight up and then like they come in, you know, for the next checkup, like two months later, and they will literally pull the shears closer together and they'll lean toward each other because like, now they're there. You know, here's the thing. When we talk about love languages, we talk about the things men need and the things women need. The vast majority of men are for primary or secondary. Love language is physical touch. So if you give the woman back the ability to have stronger, better orgasms because our clitoris is engorged and actually gets blood flow in nerve function again, it's a her orgasms are good, her libido is good, her energy is good. She's probably going want to have sex more often. Well, now all of a sudden he's having sex more often. He feels loved, he feels fulfilled. He's willing to do things for her. And all of a sudden, the relationship gets really, really tight. And it's so much fun to watch. That happens when we talk about, you know, the best things for marriages are, you know, if you can deal with the finances, great. But the sex is easy to deal with. The top two reasons people get divorces or money and sex. Right? Well, let's fix the sex. It's easy. Go make her, like, want it again. And then the first thing that happens where I'm like, when we talk about sex drive and sex function, they're like, that's so much better. First thing I do is I look at the guy to go, Have you read the Five Love languages? And they're like, What am I? Okay, new homework. You guys both go home, read this book, figure out what you So there's like, what, love languages. And then you guys can talk to each other that way because a lot of the guys were like, I mean, all I had to do is tell her hair looks good. And that's the same thing for her is me having sex.

Scott Danner [00:42:33] And words of affirmation were exactly it, right? Huge.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:42:37] And all of a sudden people are like, and this is so great. So when we start talking about how you're feeling, remember if you feel something good, bad, indifferent, it's a chemical thing. So we need to look at the chemistry. We need to reset the chemistry like, so is it a sjöström thing? Is it a is it like A.D.D. is a big issue with the process chemicals in the stuff that we're taking in. So if we have if we have something going on in our body that we know isn't right and we want it to get better, look at the chemistry every time. And if we can bring it back to the way we were designed to function, you will get back the things you were designed to have. And so you get the libido back. You get the you get the hot flashes. Nice are sacrificed to go away. The energy comes back. Everything starts getting better as we restore the body back to where it supposed to be. You're not only able to think of taking testosterone like taking a drug, your body naturally makes it. You're just not making enough. So just like anything else, your body is not making enough of D3, B vitamins, anything. Raise it back up to where it's supposed to be and you'll be fine. The vast majority people who don't make enough testosterone, they don't make enough testosterone because of their stress level for a long period of time. And if you want to tell me that these wives and these moms, I've not had a giant. The stress of the past couple of years. You forgot what Covid was. So it's been it's been a bad, bad trip psychologically for a lot of these people give giving back the stuff that makes their body run. Right. That's the biggest thing. So grab your taser. Give us one who knows what they're doing with this astronaut and brace it up. It'll be great. Like the vast majority of patients we worked with, 95% of the women. Just testosterone is all they need. They don't need estrogen. They don't need progesterone. So and that.

Scott Danner [00:44:12] Has them with the weight. That helps them with the weight as well. Correct. Because the other thing that happens is they start to get a they're doing all the right things. And you hear this a lot with our friends. They're doing all the right things. They're eating the right foods. They're exercising almost excessively and they're not seeing the results. And part of the result is the chemistry is not correct.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:44:34] Exactly. So testosterone is the healing hormone. If you go to the gym and break your body down, what's healing? Get back together. If you don't have the testosterone, not going to heal. So we get into what's called the point of diminishing returns is overexercising you're talking about. So if you go to the gym and break yourself down four units, which you can rebuild three, you've done more damage than your body can handle. So you need to do something to change the body's ability to recover, regenerate and heal. And the number one thing to do is testosterone. Like people come in, I want this peptide, I want that peptide on my balance, your testosterone first and add the peptides on top.

Scott Danner [00:45:05] It makes perfectly good sense. All right. So a couple of quick questions here and we'll wrap it up. If let's say my wife and I or one of our listeners wants to come out and and and and work with you and understand, give us the process, what does it look like? What's involved? We we fly out to Dallas to your facility. We we meet with you. You run the tests like walk us through what that that looks like maybe somebody struggling with weight gain. And they want to they want to they they've done everything that they can but they're they need to do something different to reset their life and their future because they're willing to do it. They know what they need to do, but they're struggling to actively do it. And maybe there's something else they could do. What does it look like to come to Dr. Matt Chalmers and have you put us through the gantlet?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:45:58] Well, first of all, I do. I work with you all over the US, and rarely do you guys have to come here because we can do most of the stuff over the phone. But the first thing we do is, is I always said people got to go. What are your goals? What do you really want? Because first we have to figure out where you are today. So as we pull the blood, we'll do the muscle testing, we'll do all the Easter mass and stuff. We figure out where you are today. And then the most important is where do you want to go? Because I can't think. If I have two points, I can draw a line like, here's here's how we're going to get there, here's what we're going to do. But that's the big thing is what do you really want? Then we look at the blood. We're like, here's where you're here's where all your levels are. And so here's how we're going to design like the plan for hormones. And then I said this from now a diet, I go, Give me your ten favorite foods and the 5 or 10 foods you never want to eat to get. And I'll teach you how to build a diet where you so get your pizza or your ice cream and all that stuff, but you get to lose the fat and gain the muscle. And so I start to try to teach how the body actually works so they can go make decisions for themselves. Again, my goal is that you don't have to come ask me if you have to. So ask yourself, in three months I have failed to teach you how to run your body. That's that's the way I view it. And so, like, once you can understand how the chemistry works, how you're, I can choose this food over that, here's how to run my fast if I choose at that, you know how I run my diet. So that's kind of how we go through it. And then there's lots of supplementation. We'll do exercises if you need it. If you're like, Hey, I'm going to go to the gym and work up on myself, you know, give me some exercises. I can give you videos on how exercises that you're like, I'm to go work with a trainer or I want to work with the body mind. I'm like, That's best because I can give you a video and you'll know how. But having me watch you physically move and watch your form is so important. Like get a trainer, like, you know, I will give you videos, but get a trainer to watch you work out. Like make sure you're moving properly because the motion is what's important. So that's a lot of what we go through and we do. And it's just kind of like what's fun for me is that people will come in and they'll be like, Man, Like, I'm like, What are your goals? Like, Man, I don't need a six pack. I don't need big arms. I just want to have my energy back. I just want to like mental clarity. I just want to feel like crap every day. Cool. And then like two months later. All How are you doing everything together? I am great and great. So remember when I told you I didn't need a six pack? And I'm like, Yeah, now like, so what would the plan look like if I wanted the six pack? And that is, that is by far my favorite conversation, because what that tells me is that and you said you mentioned this earlier, you took control. And this is the thing people need to understand. They've always had the power, They've always had the control. They just needed to recognize that in themselves and take it. And so what that tells me is that you put in effort, you see ROI on it, and you're willing to invest more in yourself, more time, more energy, more supplements, more, more exercise to get to another level you never thought you could before. That's my favorite conversation to have with people. So that's kind of how this is evolving process. Once you get the point, you're like, Hey, I'm on maintenance, I'm good. I know what to do. If I have a if I have an issue, I'll call you. Perfect. So it's not one of those things where I try to keep people around forever. It's I my goal is to educate you to the point where you can get where you want to be, and then I want you to take that information and teach it to your kids and your friends. Because again, I can't service everybody if I tried. And I don't want to. I want I want to teach people. So we change the way we all look at this. We all get better. Like I have a bunch of doctors which are personal trainers who work with me just so I can teach them how to then work with other people. And that's I love doing that. Like if there's trainers or docs out there, functional medicine docs where like, Hey, I'd like to learn more about hormones, stuff like that. But to do that, I'd love to teach you guys so you can help other people.

Scott Danner [00:49:23] That's your impact.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:49:24] Yeah, that that's how, that's how I change the world. That's, that's my goal.

Scott Danner [00:49:28] Yeah. You know, I love I love the what I call the look in the mirror test again, because I think so many people stop looking at themselves in the mirror when they don't like what they see and they start to numb themselves. And so when you start showing them the way and they start to actually pay attention again, they're looking again at themselves in a way that allows them to actually hold themselves accountable. I never get out of the shower and not look to make sure that it's who I'm supposed to be. Like if I see myself gaining a little bit of weight or doing anything, I'm aware of it. And it's not a vanity thing because there's no level of of of a vanity that goes with that. It's just an awareness thing. And when people start to see themselves again, they could see themselves and who they can be, who they should be, not what they were and what they didn't want to be. And I love that. And that's that's what's given. That's what's empowering them to be the, you know, the great soul they were meant to be.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:50:27] You know, it's funny because you talk about getting out the shower, You know, for so long I was the fat guy before I dove into the chemistry and try to figure it out. And I got there. And it's funny because, like, it's so weird to be for 40 something years to not to be ashamed of your body. And then finally, after you figure it all out, like I love, like when I work out, I don't I work out in my own little gym. I'm not doing this for other people, but I don't wear my shirt anymore. Like, I love the way I look. I love the body I've built. I love what I've created, and I really like helping other people get to that point because there's just something about like, that's what that's why it's so great to look and feel good because you're like, I built this. Like, no, I didn't. I didn't hair it This someone gave this to me like I did this. I was able to take you control and take control of my life and build this thing that I'm now super proud of the work I've done. And that's that's the thing that man, when you start seeing people do that and it's hard because people come in there all the time like, Thank you so much for what you've done. I'm like, No, you can't give me more than 20% of the credit. You did 80% of the work, right? So you got to take all the credit. That's the main thing I have to understand is that if you started thinking, Well, Chalmers did this for me, I know you did this for you, if you don't understand that you had the power to do it, you can change anything in your life, anything you want. That's what we're trying to teach these people is that if you take the control, anything you don't like in your life, you can fix it.

Scott Danner [00:51:46] Yeah. Look, loving yourself is contagious. So at the end of the day, when you love yourself, it allows you to attract people, not to tell people how great you are, but to actually attract people. People are attracted to a human that loves their body, loves the way they look, loves the way they feel. That is a energy that is infectious. And I think it's so powerful to hear those stories, to know that that's the difference that you can make. How do they find you? What's the way to to find you? Dr. Matt, What what do they do?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:52:21] Pillars. A wellness icon. And then among all the socials that Dr. Chalmers won, just the number one, I tell people to try to follow me on Twitter because I've been banned on YouTube a couple of times and I've been banned on Tik Tok for saying things that go against what the CDC says.

Scott Danner [00:52:36] Which is why you love RFK, because, you know, another reason why I think the the the the main the mainstay media today, mainstream media, media, if you will, they they genuinely don't want people to start to make decisions for themselves. They don't want you to feel good when you get out of the shower. They don't want you to eat the right foods. They are teaching you things that are going to make you dependent, not independent. And when we realize that and you start getting curious about your own life, life changes. Life is better. Dr. Matt Chalmers can change your life and help you. I'm I'm so thankful to have you on the show today. Thanks for being a guest, brother.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:53:19] Absolutely, man. Thanks for thanks for getting the message out.

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