The benefits of semaglutide and GLP-1 medications for weight loss and diabetes management. These treatments activate natural receptors in the body to regulate metabolism, burn fat, and support energy production, making them particularly effective for individuals struggling to lose weight despite maintaining a healthy diet. The approach includes regular blood tests to monitor progress, a customized diet plan, and careful use of injections to ensure fat is burned for energy without losing muscle. The treatment typically lasts 2-4 months, with ongoing adjustments to maintain healthy weight and hormone levels.
In addition to medication, a tailored diet and supplement plan play a crucial role in supporting fat loss while preserving muscle mass. The body must be prepared to process fat, which often requires support for the liver and gallbladder. A gradual, monitored approach is recommended for those using GLP-1 medications, along with exercise to maintain muscle tone. The focus on low-sugar, high-protein meals and regular health check-ins ensures long-term success. Personalized care, hormone balance, and proper consultation are emphasized to optimize results and achieve sustainable health goals.
Highlights of the Podcast
00:00 - Introduction
01:13 - Use for Diabetes and Weight Loss
07:46 - Preventing Muscle Loss
10:45 - Risks and Considerations
11:03 - Who Should Consider Semaglutide
13:47 - Starting Semaglutide
14:49 - Self-Injections and Needle Size
15:02 - Microdosing vs. Weekly Doses
16:17 - Diet and Nutritional Profile
17:11 - Preventing Muscle Mass Loss and Gallbladder Issues
19:33 - Supplements and Liver Care
22:22 - Dietary Approach
23:22 - Tracking Progress and Adjusting Treatment
24:35 - Exercise During the Program
26:13 - Resetting the Metabolism
28:33 - Choosing a Good Provider
31:21 - Estimated Cost for Treatment
34:48 - Fat vs. Weight
39:00 - Post-Treatment Diet and Insulin Management
42:51 - Recovery Time from Old Diets
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:00] All right. So we're going to talk tonight a little about. semaglutide and pick we'll go by. Those are the things the GOP ones and the GIP ones respect for function. So. First of all, the the question of whether or not it's natural or not is kind of I'll leave that up to everybody else to decide. These these are basically hormone functions. The peptides activate natural receptors that are in the body to do a to start and prolong a natural process, which is why they're so easy to use properly if you understand the physiological biochemistry. So yeah,Â
Person 1Â [00:00:36] but I do have a question. So one, thank you, ma'am, for being here for our first wellness connection. Well, it really be interesting is very first start just the idea of a and all what you just said like who's that? Who is it for?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:52] Okay.Â
Person 1Â [00:00:53] And the general basic idea of what it does. You know what I mean? Because at the end of the day is I think I think a lot of people you're in depth and a lot of people will understand that they've heard of it. But really like but what it is it really weight loss or is it diabetes? Is it muscle? You know what what are the what are just the general general like? So I I've got an entry point.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:01:13] All right. Yeah. So so my one of my my two favorite things to fix are diabetes and dementia. And so you can use jumpy ones for diabetes really, really well, when you understand metabolic biochemistry, it's easy to fix diabetes, but it's really this mix, this tool makes it a lot easier to fix. So yeah, it is a great diabetes tool, but it's also really important for everybody else, especially a lot of people who have been eating the foods they were told to eat for so long. I was talking with somebody to say about how, you know, all of this, you know, low fat and high carb, that's the healthy way to go. And all the poisons, everything in our food has broken our systems. And so there's a lot of people who, even when they get on a good diet, that the right diet, they're like, why am I not losing the fat? Well, it's because of your hormone function. And so the job ones help us to reset hormone function. So even in people who are healthy don't have diabetes, just like I made a pretty good diet and I'm exercising a little bit and I'm not losing any fat at all like these are these are great ways to reset that system. And we've talked about earlier, a lot of the foods that we eat have all sorts of chemicals in them, dyes and, you know, natural flavorings and all these other chemicals in them that are designed to, one, make them addictive, but to to really enhance flavor function. And the issue with those is that a lot of this stuff is very, very damaging to the body. High fructose corn sirup, all the seed oils, like there's a giant amount of other chemicals that we have in our foods that are really, really bad for us. And so the acidic in these difficult times and the upsides and these are great tools for very much anybody to use. The problem is, is that they're powerful and they're real. And when you get things that are real and powerful, they're going to be it's like fire fires. Amazing. It heats your food and warms your house, but it also can destroy everything it touches. So you just have to understand how you're using them and be careful with them. And they're very, very, very safe and very effective and functional so that when used properly. Yeah. And that's one of those big things that, you know, it's if you're going to do something, do it right. And unfortunately, a lot of the people who are using them don't fully understand them, like the a lot of the doctors, a lot of the health care providers don't understand metabolic biochemistry. They still think the body runs on calories. And that's a major problem because if you think the body runs in calories, you should not be using jellybeans because it's it's entirely about production of ATP and production of energy and how your body does it. So that's the big piece of it. So when we look at the GOP ones, those are glucagon like proteins, and so they activate glucagon receptors. So glucagon is kind of the opposite of insulin. So when we eat carbohydrates, we get insulin. Insulin moves the sugar from the intestine into the bloodstream and then from the bloodstream into the tissues like muscles and liver and things like that. The sugars and stored as glycogen. When your muscles are full of glycogen, your liver is full of like it's in your body that uses insulin to store any excess sugar as fat. And so that's how that works. Now glucagon comes in and it tells your body, Hey, we're low on sugar, we need to make more sugar. While we're doing that, we need to find a second fuel source. That's where we start burning fat. And so the glucagon comes in, starts burning fat, while the body makes extra sugar to run the blood because the blood could only run on sugar like this whole keto thing. And people are like, well, the whole body can run on ketones. That's not true at all. The brain can. Doesn't really like it all muscles can your muscles run on fat all the time. In fact, your heart's primary fuel source is LDL cholesterol. So a lot of the body is already running on cholesterol, already running on fat. When we talk about fat, we're actually talking about cholesterol. Your body is running on cholesterol. So we start looking at, okay, well, what is the blood sugar? Again, we go back to it's not calories. It's ATP your body. Creates ATP, your blood does by taking glucose and breaking it in half as it goes through the cytoplasm of the top part of the cell. It breaks into lactate and rises to ATP. The only way your your blood can have energy or ATP is from glucose. So you have to continually make it. You make it through a process called gluconeogenesis. This process uses proteins too, and fat that is the fuel source providing the fuel. And then it uses the proteins to then create sugar for your blood. The problem is, if you're not eating enough protein, it will find the only protein has access to, which is your muscle tissue. This is why we lose so much muscle mass when people are using Ozempic or Georgi ones of any kind. And so this is one of the major issues because they did a study and they said, hey, you know, these people lost a lot of weight, but 40 to 50% of the weight they lost was lean muscle tissue. And that's really bad because your metabolism lives in your muscle tissue, your health, your function moving coordination, balance, all that is muscle tissue based. And so we don't want to lose any of that. And so they were like, we shouldn't use these. Well, now you should just know how the body works, because if you know that you have to start fixing that, you increase the protein intake, whether it's collagen, whether it's meat, whether it's whatever. You bring in extra protein so that your body has that protein to tear apart and so your muscle tissues. So the problem we get into with a lot of GP's is that you have JLP receptors in your stomach, your intestines, your brainstem and your liver. And so what ends up happening is that it will slow down gastric emptying. And when it does this, what that means is that the amount of food that's in your stomach, leaving the stomach in the intestines, your stomach has stress receptors in it that release a hormone called leptin. When those get stressed, she goes, hey, you're full. So think of like Thanksgiving when you've eaten everything you could see. And then someone's like, What about pie? You're like, that. That makes me nauseous. That's what the leptin feeling is, that stretch receptors in your stomach. So when is it happening? Is that the typically tired or any of the daily ones can make your stomach feel like it's its Super Bowl? And so people just don't want to eat, which is fine because if you're fasting, this actually helps the whole process. But the problem run into if you're like, I don't want to eat anything, I don't even want to, you know, drink anything, then when is it happening? Is that you don't have the protein to tear apart to make the glucose. So nobody has to tear apart your muscle tissues. And so coaching people through how to do that is really important. And I don't think that I think that's one of the things that's not being done.Â
Person 1Â [00:07:46] So to just break it down for for me to understand simply is that at the end of the day is if I'm thinking about doing this is a job. Yes. So if I'm thinking about doing this at all, the correction is that this hormone release helps release this notice to my body and it says you're potentially full. And so that's what actually has happened, is releasing the it says on potentially for that release that is then going to cause my body to search for an energy source. And you're saying when searching for that energy source, I have to have my body in a state that's telling it to search for the fat source versus the muscle sources that. Right. Or
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:31] kind of kind of So your body, your body is going to burn the fat to produce the energy to go through the process of glucagon. So it's going to be burning fat regardless. So when it tries to make that sugar, that's when it starts burning the muscle tissue or breaking down the muscle tissue.Â
Person 1Â [00:08:45] So how do we stop that?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:47] We bring in extra protein. Okay. And so there's there's two things that we like that I like to do is we bring in extra protein. Again, whether it's supplemental or you're eating it. And then we raise the testosterone levels back up to soft forms, the healing hormone. And so if your body does break apart some muscle tissue and you have and then you eat protein later, the testosterone helps us to go back and rebuild that tissue and put it back together. Testosterone also increases metabolic function. And so if we're trying to burn more fat, increasing metabolic function is a really, really good idea. So we get more bone density, we get more muscle mass, we get more, you know, sleep and functionality and all the great things this summer brings. But it also heals, regenerates, repairs, the muscle tissue. And so those two things, we bring up the protein function and bring them through to sjöström. And I will didn't try to talk people into doing some modicum of exercise, you know, even if it's just, you know, do three sets of ten squats like stand up from a chair ten times, you know, and then do that again for three secs, you're morning night. And that usually gets everything balanced. What we're so what I'm seeing right now is people are sending people in to me because I do a lot of neurology, stuff like that, and they're like, Hey, I got this patient and we don't know what happened, but she can't walk now. Alex, who stands up and she's all like wobbly. And she's like, she's really hard for her to walk and we don't know what's going on. And so I keep getting these people in and and I've talked to them like, you know, we'll look at the nerves and this and that and make anything big happen. Like, well, I lost. 40 pounds on those impaction. That's your problem. So we have to rebuild their muscle tissue. And so it's a problem that people are not aware of. It's like, for instance, you know, another sidebar towards appetite is being showing that it's starting to create tumors in the thyroid. So trans appetite is not I'm not saying you shouldn't use terms appetite. I'm just saying be cautious of that. If you have a family history of thyroid issues or if you personally have a thyroid issue. I would be a little bit cautious with risk appetite. So these are all things that we find out as we go along that, hey, we should figure out why this is here and fix it.Â
Person 1Â [00:10:45] So I've got a couple of just. Yeah. Questions. One, just so we're on the same page. Who should be thinking about this. So a handful. Just follow up, just super kind of like.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:59] So all diabetics and anybody who's got 10 or 20 pounds, they want to lose.Â
Person 1Â [00:11:03] And so that's anybody. That's just anybody that and whether it could be more than that or less than that. Yeah, I can I can start as this as a weight loss is same person entry point is who could do this diabetics or anybody that wants to lose some. Yeah. And then what would be the first step that I would want to be considering? Meaning? Okay, so I. I qualify as that person. Yep. And I do control for that person says I would mind doing that. And then so what is the next step that says, okay, knowing that I'm going to do this, I want to know what's my step? So one ordering it. Is there a test that I need to do as a blood test? What's what's the first step? And then the second would be is, okay, where do I get that? Then the third step is, what do I need to get my body ready for people prepped in like in a keto state or not? And then what are the things I've got to do to exercise? And then lastly, what are the check points that I need to be doing? And then the very last is when do I get off of it or do I?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:12:12] So it's already through how I do it in my office. I can't speak for everybody, but the way that we do it in our office is the first thing we do is we take blood. Because I want to know where all your hormones are. I know where everything is in the body. Make sure everything's good. And we have a very good point because I really want to know where your insulin, your fasting insulin is as well, because that tells me it tells me safety wise, where we're at. So, for instance, if you come in and your your fasting insulin is 17 or 20 and we start working with you and you lose 20 pounds and your fasting insulin is now 13, and you're like, I've lost the weight. I'm ready to get off. I want to have the conversation with you from a safety standpoint, from a diabetic safety standpoint, I would recommend that you wait and you stay on it. You wait until you're under ten is a fasting, fasting insulin. So that's that be one of those things we pulled blood. And then I want to make sure that I go through and I explain in detail with somebody how it's how they should be eating regularly. And so what I always do, as I say, bring me your ten favorite foods and the five foods you never want to eat again, because everyone's also going to be like, I hate bacon and avocado sumac. I'm glad you told me that, cause I'm going to put that on your diet so that my my whole point is the diet thing is you can eat pizza and ice cream and cookies and cake and like, tacos and you can eat all these things in a healthy diet and still lose the fat. And so we want to I want to teach you how to do that, because any time that you create a diet where you don't get to eat the favorite foods, it's not a sustainable diet. If you're like, just never have pizza again, I'll be like, that's I'll tell you right now that's going to happen, right? For me personally, I love pizza. I have it all the time.Â
Person 1Â [00:13:47] Â I'm eligible.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:13:49] Blood tests.Â
Person 1Â [00:13:50] Where my baseline is. And then you're going to me you're going to tell me the diet's.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:13:55] Correct nutritional profile. We're going to go through that and then we start doing that. We start doing the injectable single type and we'll do that for you. Start off with a low dose and then you kind of build up to it. And then it's really important that whoever's taking this reports back to the tax payer provider. I'm getting nauseous, I'm getting lightheaded. I feel like this. I feel like that. So communication's important. But you just run this program for about. 2 to 4 months. And that's usually what people will normally need. Now, if you if you're one of the people who has 100 pounds or 120 pounds overweight, it's like, hey, we'll run this a little bit longer. That's fine. You just do blood tests every so often. Like, I like to do it every 2 to 10, 8 to 10 weeks or two months to have months to see kind of where everything is. And so we'll do it like that. And then we maintain the safety function and then we'll have move through like that.Â
Person 1Â [00:14:49] Talk to me about the injectables. Yeah. Self injected. Yeah. What's that like for most people that have. And where do I do it? How big is the needle? And, you know, because I think that's going to be a fear factor.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:15:02] Yeah. So I love, like whether we're doing I am injections for for testosterone or the or the assuming that I use a small little insulin needle. I always like to talk to people when they when the first time they do it because they're all terrified and they're shaking and they're pale white and they stick the needle in and they get to sleep in the face of embarrassment and like, really, that's it? Because it's not that big of a deal. But so they're typically what we're using for semaglutide are these little tiny insulin syringes. You can barely even feel them. And the technique I teach people is pinch your teeth are teaches is you pinch a little bit of the belly fat. And if you're pinching enough that you can feel it when you stick the needle in, you're not going to feel the needle go in. And so you go in and you're using very, very small amounts of the stuff. And so it's not like you're injecting large amounts of fluid in the air or anything like that. So it's pretty simple. So there's a couple of ways of doing it. The way that most docs will do it is a large one a week injection. I like to do it in very a much smaller dose every day. And there's reasons for that. I like to use time as a as a functionality. But that's those are the two different options for people to do.Â
Person 1Â [00:16:17] microdosing daily or once a week?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:16:20] Yes. Those are the two. Those are the two options that people usually have.Â
Person 1Â [00:16:24] So just getting recap. I'm eligible. I do baseline blood tests. I then understand the diet, which is important, not not so much that says it's a diet, but just making sure that the nutritional profile that I'm taking is setting my body up for success. The success of what you're about in what the body is going to naturally do with the hormone.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:16:48] Well, and the other big thing is that if you if you can we can find a diet that will work for you when you're done with this to include Tide or whatever else you'll do when you're in use. When you're done with those things. If you go back to eating the way that got you fat beforehand, you're eating a fat again. Yeah. And so why don't we find a way that you can eat the things you want to eat and not get fat so that afterwards you're now healthy after you're done. That's that's one of the goals.Â
Person 1Â [00:17:11] Yeah. And I and I can speak directly to that as I is changing the diet that I actually like, that I eat all the time now has reduced headaches and everything has nothing to do. I haven't tried the Pacific or the GOP ones yet, but but I can just tell you that I'm I am much more in tune and ready. And I'm also it's not like I'm choosing to make some sort of sacrifice to get on this diet, which is what you kind of know. You say pick your ten favorite foods. Okay, So then now I'm injecting either microdosing every day or ends up doing them once a week. So at that point and you're saying make sure that I check in and monitor with somebody that tests on those injections. If I'm not feeling great, I should report it back and stop and report back and then figure it out. Is that what you're doing?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:17:56] Yes. Yes. What are the other big things that the muscle mass loss is? One of the big things we'll talk about. But the one of the things that's not talked about enough is when your body is burning more fat, whether you're eating it or you're burning the fat that's on your body, your body has to process it and processes it a lot. For the most part with lipase and with bile salts. So it ends up happening is if you radically increase the function of burning fat and your body's not used to burning fat. It's like using a muscle you haven't used in a long time. And so oftentimes our bile cells are congealed. They've lost 36 or 1 of the other multitude of reasons where your bile isn't where it supposed to be. And so what ends up happening is that you get gallbladder issues, you get gallstone issues, you get, you know, people have to have goals for emergency gallbladder surgery or they start getting really nauseous and things like that. And so, you know, buffering the bile function and the liver function is really important and it's super easy if you just start off like at the beginning, me and like, here's how we're going to do it. A lot of times people get themselves in trouble because they let themselves get behind the eight ball. And so it's like, Hey, if you take a little bit of this every day, you'll be totally fine. Like Method 86. But if you don't, if you wait till it's really bad, you're like, now I've got gallbladder issues. Obnoxiousness is killing me. What's now it's really I you take a bunch of stuff and do a whole lot of stuff to hopefully get it to pass and it's not comfortable while you're doing it. So that's why you want to sort of throughout the whole the whole course. But that's one of the big things to recognize is that if your body if you haven't been burning fat. You still have a lot of fat on you. The process of your body burning the fat or breaking the fat down requires chemical function. We have to make sure your body has those chemicals. In order to do that properly.Â
Person 1Â [00:19:33] So is that are you suggesting there's something else beyond the bigger the other ones to that which is visible against your feelings? Is there something beyond that that I'm going to need? So blood tests, diet injections, keep up the pace on what my body function is, you're saying? Is there another additive I need?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:19:54] Not for everybody, but for a lot of people. We'll have to do some stuff for liver. And so, like I said, you know, either yeah, we'll use tadka, we use ox bile, we'll use the secondary bile. We use a lot of methylated B to keep the bile cells in suspension to could deliver and function. Supplement supplements. Supplements. Yeah. Now I'm a big fan of coffee enemas for this because nothing cleans the liver like a coffee enema. However, talking people are doing coffee enemas is not super easy. So if you're willing to go that route, it's awesome for you. But if you're not, that's fine. There's other ways of doing it.Â
Person 1Â [00:20:28] I've just got one for me right now. Yeah.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:20:31] I gotcha.Â
Person 1Â [00:20:32] We'll work on the other one. But. So. But let's talk about the diet. Yeah. Because I feel like that seems to be one of the. Should I or shouldn't I? Which is, if I qualify, my blood will works. Good. But the diet has a lot to do with whether it's making it safe, because from what you've told me, it the diet does dictate a little bit of what your body what this is going to attack, whether it's muscle or fat.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:20:59] Yeah. So we're going to we're going to have a higher protein diet. Keto works really well for a lot of people, but ketosis also hard for some people. So like, I can't give up my fruits or I can't give up my. That's right. So what we'll do is we reduce the basically the the insulin drive. So we look at the glycemic function of the carbohydrates you're eating and we're like, hey, we got to narrow this down. And so, again, you don't have to be in a keto diet again for most people. Like they go through and they say, Well, I'm not going to be keto. I like, I really like my berries and I like, you know, that's one of the big ones that people like. I'm not going to get my fruit, my berries and like half the fruits you want to have, you can have and I might have like keto diet. Like it's not that big of a deal but or they like, I really want my brownies. Like cool if you make them like this are going to be healthy for you like are going to be beneficial for you and not problematic, you know even in a fat standpoint. And so we'll go through and I'll teach you to use these chemicals, not those chemicals when you make these things or you eat these things. But that's how that's why I tell people like, give me your favorite foods. Like I can teach you to make tacos and pizza and ravioli and, you know, cake and ice cream and brownies and cookies and all sorts of stuff. And there's stuff that's already made you want to make it all just like, eat these things. Not those things, you know, get all the stuff you want. And again, that's one of the things for while we're doing this, it's for this long. And if you have to have your stuff, we're integrate a lot of these things in.Â
Person 1Â [00:22:22] yeah okay so I like with the process. And then the question would then be the next questions. Well get to the end here. So blood work to get a baseline check about the food. We then get the GLP one that makes the most sense. We then test that to make sure that we're good, that we're going, we're feeling well, and then if there's anything that needs to be added on top of that, that's our check in, correct, making sure. And then we're going through that process. And I think at the end we're looking for the results that we feel that we're. And you're saying whatever it was, how many other weeks, two months or something on it. And we'll we'll see where we're at from that results then and then is there do you end up encouraging people? Well, they're doing another test at that point, another blood test or something to see where we're at. Yeah. At the end of two months. And then if we're still not at the point what we're wanting to be, is there the chance to continue on or is there.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:23:22] yeah. No, no. There's, there's been research of people doing this for over a year and not having any negative function with it. So, you know, we can do it for quite a while. There is going to be a point because there's going to be a point where you're going to want to come off because you're going to get where you need to go regardless. Either your plateau and be like, This is kind of where it is. Or if you get to a point where you're like, I've lost all the things I need to lose and I want to get off. And so you can you can taper off. That doesn't mean that you don't ever come back on. So if you know, if you do this for a while and then you come back later and you're like, hey, you know, I've been working out. I want to I want to see my muscles now. I want to see my six pack and stuff. So I want to cycle back on. It's not it's not one of those things. You can only do it once or twice. Like it's you can go on and off again as long as you're safe with it. The process we're using is is a natural process that your body literally goes through or is supposed to go through all the time. And so it's not some crazy drug doing this crazy thing. It's just telling your body, hey, you are the thing you do all the time. Do it, do it again. And that's just basically all of this.Â
Person 1Â [00:24:28] And so plug four, five, five here, you do want to be exercising during this time.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:24:35] The the the best way to keep yourself functional and moving and like you're going to all you lose weight. Here's one of the things people are saying. Everybody thinks that their diet is really awesome. Ripped body underneath the fat. If I just lose the fat, I'll look amazing. You've got to build those muscles up if you want them to show, you want to show them off. But the other thing about it is that if you'll just do some type of kinetic motion, it'll help keep your balance, your coordination, your your stamina, like all the things you need for longevity of life together. Now, vibe is probably one of my favorite things for this because a lot of people are just like, Look, I don't want to go to the gym for two hours and lift weights with the me hands like me. Like, I get that. That's fine. I want to go do something that is easy, that is fun. That is, you know, there's going to be functional and keep everything where it's supposed to be and it can be beneficial to me all the way around. And so something like Viber class like that would be 100% of playing. I would tell people to go do because it's you're in an hour and 50 minutes. You've got people there who can kind of help you go through it. We're all kind of on a journey together and you're going to get, you know, flexibility function here. You're to get balance and coordination. You get your cardio, you'll get some weight in like it is. It's really, really, really well formulated. For weight loss, health and general fitness, regardless of your vibe, would be probably the best thing I can come up with for somebody to go through a night.Â
Person 1Â [00:25:54] And then lastly, is this a good help for. Is this a catalyst in that they get you started and maybe the function starts to end your diet and everything else that you could you can get yourself there and potentially continue to advance without being on the gym.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:26:13] Yeah. There's also there's a lot of people who, like I said, like they'll decide, all right, I'm going to get healthy, I'm start working out how to do my diet. Right? And there's I've seen this dozens of times. People come in to some of their diet and like your diet is actually pretty solid. And then can this one during the gym and like. All right that's pretty good too. Like, why not lose the fat? I'm like, because you spent five, ten, 20 years eating the foods you were told you're supposed to eat by the FDA. And these guys, the same guys who say Lucky Charms, that it's like, now you've been doing these things, right? Because that's what you're told to do. But it broke your system. And so we've got to go back through and reset it. So a lot of times they'll do it one time, get get the fat off your device, reset the metabolic system, recalibrated, and then they're fine from that point forward. And I see that a lot. I feel really bad for these guys because they're my age, like late 30s, early 40s. They're like, I don't get it. I'm eating, I'm eating the diet. It's really clean. Like, I might have a beer here. And they're like, I should I should be able to lose some of this fat. And I'm like, You're right, you should. And we're running through this. And all of a sudden they're like, now everything works again. And that's how it is.Â
Person 1Â [00:27:16] All right. Now onto the now on to that question that really is okay. So I've met all the things I know if I'm going to look, obviously we brought you here because you can do it through you and there's the opportunity to go and you would manage us through the whole process.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:27:34] my team, my team all do that. Yeah.Â
Person 1Â [00:27:36] And then then secondarily, what are the things that we're going to watch for? Meaning of either the person like you that I'm going to go to and I need to know that says they're telling me the same thing. So these are the 5 or 6 levels that I need to blood test the diet regiment that we're going to get on ensuring that we're feeling well during that and supplement anything that needs to go on to that and then some sort of exit opportunity that we need to go. And what about the actual JLP ones itself? Because you see them promoted all over the Internet. How do you distinguish between what's good, what's not good, what And you can use your own, you know, where you guys choose to get it because that would be another thing is how do I choose? I mean, do I go in and see like pay the, you know, outrageous price or the brand name a setback or do I try to look at something else? And if I do, what am I looking for?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:28:33] So, all right. So couple of things. I would stay away from anybody. I don't care what their credentials are. If they just are like, yeah, come get it. And that's all you need to do. Like if they're just selling the drug, they're just saying the ozempic are just selling the peptide, they just can buy it from me and that's it. Like I would not work with those people because if they're not sitting down and walking you through, here's the upsides and downsides. Call us for these reasons. We're going to track with you. We're going to talk to you every so often. Like, I wouldn't work with those guys and I don't know how many of those guys are out there. I know lots people are just selling peptides. I would not work with those guys at all. So that's one the there's going to be layers of how much exercise to be able to make you do or want you to do so like that. But I would 100% work for somebody who goes through and breaks down how the diet works and how the individual macros feed the body and how what actually makes you get fat and like how to say, okay, here's how we're going to structure a diet. So in a way that is going to be beneficial for you afterwards. And this whole this like calorie deficit thing is absurdity, because most of the people who are going to go use this are endo morphs. And so the way their body handles these hormones is we have like I'm in the north as well, is we store really, really well and we don't let go very easily. And so if you don't understand that functionality, that insulin, glucagon functionality, you're never going be able to create the diet for somebody that's important. So you're going to want to make sure that they have a good solid diet that's based on a high protein, very low sugars type of type of diet. Like I said, didn't have to be keto ketones easy. So if you're like, I'm going to do the easiest way just to do a solid clean keto diet without either keto chemicals like the, the, the like the dirty keto, like the processed stuff. Stay away from that. Just clean keto and you'll be gone as far as where you get it. Most of the stuff is going to be pharmaceutically made from a compounding pharmacy or from, you know, Eli Lilly or, you know, Kodak. And so one of these places and so that's fine the so ozempic and will go we are similar type and that's what it is. And so if you're getting a good clean semaglutide from a reputable pharmacy. So the question is, are they going to be basically the same thing? Now, the cool thing about its impact is it comes in this little like pen and you twist it and then you use that. You don't have to draw it. That's the thing. So but the difference is like so like where we get it, you get like, I think what the average dose is, you're going to be like three and a half months for like 350 bucks. Or it's for the one month is like $1,200. Those are back. So whatever makes you feel better, if you're like, I'm a brand name type of person, fine. It doesn't matter. We can write, prescribe stuff, so whatever. Whatever you want.Â
Person 1Â [00:31:21] And so I guess then the last one of this would be two fold. General, ballpark of what am I going to spend over this two months? Three months? I mean, it's not a $5,000 proposition, I guess, unless I'm looking into those, right? But if I wanted to do too much, you don't have to give me the exact number, but I'm just trying to in my head, I'm trying to price it out. Am I going to spend 800 bucks? Thousand bucks five.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:47] Assuming between, you know, or at least with our stuff here. And I'm looking at somewhere between for the three months, the average versus like somewhere between. I don't want to go too low. 1200 to 2000. Somewhere in there, depending on what all the goals are. Like the person just wants to do the, you know, the sonic glue time with our team, the only thing we make you do is go through the nutrition piece and the blood draws. So, yeah, so the blood work and the nutrition piece. And so yeah, you're looking at right at a thousand for the two and a half, three months. But if you like, depending on other people are like, I want to do that as often as well. I want to do like you, You can, you can add on for beds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.Â
Person 1Â [00:32:28] And then the last thing, unless anybody else has something. But the last thing then is the members of five five can call. You guys get lined up and you get a discount. Based on where I talk about what the discount is. The deal? Yep. Tell your tell your group that you're with five five.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:32:45] That is the first thing that I five guys that you know. Yeah. Or you know with like is going to be you know we'll say we'll talk about like 15 minute free consults this thing that I do all the time because I want to make sure that if you have like, hey, I really want to do this, but I have 2 or 3 questions that are personal to you calling us like, the last thing I want people to do is be like, I'm not going to do something that could end up being radically beneficial to their health. Because in the thing is that people are worried about using some glutens and stuff like that. And Joe, he wants he's like, I'm worried it's going to damage my health. If you're 40 pounds over fat, that's radically damaging your health right now. Your spine, your hips, your knees, your ankles, fat purses on hormones like it is very, very bad. And here's the biggest issue. If you can't lose that fat and you're in a decent diet, you have insulin problems that not everybody the vast majority of people have insulin problems that could lead into something like diabetes. And the problem is, is that because a lot of people don't understand how diabetes actually damages the body, so like I said, dementia and trying to think of things to fix. The reason why they're so tied together is because if you have higher fasting insulin, the blood sugars that's supposed to your blood is just between 80 and 100. The sugar this must be around your brain is 55 to 60. If your insulin stays up too high, you'll start dripping some of that sugar from your blood into your brain. And so what ends up happening is that at 55, 60 or 65, 70 as far as blood sugar, and that creates all sorts of neurodegeneration dementia, things like that. So if we if you're like, I'm not going to use those in picture semaglutide because I don't I want to be safe and healthy. I'll just stay 30, 45 pounds to fat. Am I fasting insulin? 1516 You might be doing a lot more damage to your health long term by leaving yourself fat than running through 2 or 3 months or five months of semaglutide. And so from a health standpoint, it's, you know, we're there. So like everybody is super healthy when they're fat. That is not true at all. Like I understand body positivity and that's great, but you are not healthy if you're sitting on 40 pounds of extra fat. A lot of people are. So.Â
Person 1Â [00:34:48] One clarification. Just because you and I always have this, you actually like to use the word fat over weight because there is a difference between weight and fat. Yeah. When we're using that weight is something when you and I have this conversation. Yeah. I don't look at weight. Weight is not a it's not a number that I check. It's the it's the fat measure that we look at. And that's the reason the word fat is coming up. And then but then lastly, I think I keep saying lastly, but at the end of the day, at the end of this, what we're looking at is. I think the key takeaway is there is a 15 minute free consultation. Yep. Yep. Great. Because this is an additive way to kind of get those kind of well, well wellness connections that we're looking for. But a way to look at how does that at least five members and how do I increase the other opportunities that I'm doing? I'm coming out of feeling good, what's together, and it benefits and they can at least come to you and get some more information. Absolutely. What's great is and you can confirm this, is that your you're about sharing information because you have a podcast you do all the time. You're about sharing information. So it's not that they have to come to you and that this is something you're saying you have to use me for. No great sounding board for it.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:36:03] Yeah. The biggest thing is that, like, my, my my goal in life is to get the get the information out because I want to help people get where they want to go in a healthy, simple, healthy way. So that's kind of my whole purpose. The things that a lot of people aren't doing things in the way that I think is the most beneficial or the healthiest. And I want to touch on the fat thing, because that is one of the things that I say a lot, and I'm glad you brought it up. The reason that I tell people we use the term fat is because we like, want to lose weight. You don't want to lose weight. You want to lose fat. So if you the problem is when you're tracking things, if you don't track it. Right. So if you gain 5 pounds of muscle and lose 5 pounds of fat, you have not lost any weight at all. Which are substantially healthier because you have more muscle and you have less fat. And so this the body composition is really important. And so people are coming back, I lost 10 pounds, like, all right. But the way you did it, because you just cut your calories back, you pick a fuel source all the way back, you lost 4 pounds of muscle and 6 pounds of fat. But the problem is that when you gain that 10 pounds back, you're just gaining 10 pounds of fat back. The reason it's always hard to lose lose weight the second time is because you've lost the muscle mass the first time. And the muscle mass is what actually helps you lose all fat to begin with because it's your metabolism function. So that's why I don't like to use weight because we were like, I lost 2 pounds in this, this. You know why fasting all day long? Well, you didn't drink any water and so you lost one kilogram of water, which is one liter of water. And so you drink water, they say like, now I'm fat again. No, you know, that's you're using weight. It's water, fat muscle. The favorite thing is fiber doesn't get in your body, but if you eat a bunch of fiber, then you drink a bunch of water. The fiber holds the water. And so you're like, my gosh, I'm 5 pounds heavier today. How did I get that? Then you go poop and you're like, okay, I've lost 3 pounds, so everything's okay. It was never a problem. It was always just water and fiber that's in your intestine. So that's why I always try to make the differentiation between weight, because if we start this is the biggest issue I have. If you're working out hard and you're eating right and the scales not moving, every single time you walk in, you look at the scale, you're like, I'm a failure. I'm not Whatever I'm doing isn't working. And so this is what discourages people more often than anything is because they're not tracking their stuff. Right. Your diets working great. You're losing half a pound of fat every couple of days. You're gaining half pound of muscle every couple of days. If you just stick with it, you'll start to see it. But if you gain 5 pounds of muscle and lose 5 pounds of fat, 90% people can't tell. So if you start tracking these things differently, you start seeing the return on investment that you're getting from your work. You can then convince yourself, this is actually working. I can do this longer. And that leads to actual health positive health outcomes. And that's why that's why I'm really a stickler on losing fat, gaining muscle. Don't use weights, use measurements, use other metrics. So thanks for bringing that up. Yeah.Â
Person 1Â [00:38:57] From. Well, I think.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:38:59] Do you have any questions?Â
Person 1Â [00:39:00] Questions?Â
Person 2Â [00:39:01] What You covered a lot so.Â
Person 1Â [00:39:03] Yeah, I.Â
Person 2 [00:39:03] Don't have that many questions. I think. I wonder more about the diet? And also, once the diet is established and you go off of the. The tool. Using that, you know, and you stick with that diet. How do you know that you're not going to just gradually have weight or adipose tissue fat creep back up on you? How do you and how do you know that your insulin is staying stabilized?Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:39:37] So I'm a big fan of checking things. So like, I like to check blood. Like, I check my blood a lot more often. People check their blood, you know, quarterly or every six months we can check blood and see where that is with us going. We have a lot of people who just do that for their general health. And then once you kind of understand how the system works, it's it's pretty easy for a lot of people to like, okay, like I'm getting a little softer. I can cut back on this or tweak this. But at the end of the day, if you if you are eating a good healthy diet and you start gaining a little bit excess fat, you know, and you wanted to run through that again, you can like it's not the worst thing in the world, but balancing the other hormones helps tremendously. So a lot of times people talk about this all the time with like testosterone. When they raise the testosterone up, especially with guys, it makes them so mad. And I feel, yeah, this. But they're like my husband going on testosterone and I got the testosterone and we didn't change your diet at all and he lost 10 pounds and looks great and I haven't lost anything. And I'm like, I feel like I'm sorry. But that's one of those things that like, is the rest of your body where supposed to be is your testosterone. We're supposed to be like, is your activity where it's supposed to be? Is your sleep where it's supposed to be? There's lots of things that affect the body metabolically that we just look at it from a you know, from a, you know, I've gained this weight or I've gained this whatever, because, you know, my diet's wrong. Well, your diet might not be that bad, but you're missing your hormones or your, you know, and one of the things we see with men, especially if they're on testosterone, not monitoring their estrogens or estrogen, gets too high and holds water weight on them. And so, again, it's are we checking all of the hormones? Are we were supposed to be all the way across the board. Are we eating something that's causing inflammation? Because one of the things, again, with weight is because you can you can strip five, 6 pounds of something off of somebody with waterways by detoxifying their body. So if you're eating these these, these things that you're either allergic or sensitive to or you're eating toxic chemicals or whatever, that can start to create a metabolic process where your body holds extra water on you. And that's a problem as well. And so people come in sometimes and they're like like, I don't know what's going on. I didn't change my diet, you know, And now I'm getting all this weight and we'll take a look at what they're actually eating. And we're like, okay, you're these things you're sensitive to and so you're holding extra water weight. So either desensitizing those foods or you quitting those foods for a little bit and it falls off. So that the other thing is, are we are we as we go along, are we checking on things like that? And that's one of those things where it's always funny because we were like, there's just too much to remember. I can't remember. And I'm like, Well, that's fine. That's my job. Like you do, Like, I talk to you all the time. You do it work and they talk to me and I'm like, I have no clue what you're talking about. And they're like, Really? This is very simple stuff. And like, I can turn it on. I can do some things with it. I don't know. So like their job is I remember all the stuff from my CPA's jobs, remember all the CPA tax stuff, my job to remember all of these things. So when you have these issues is have you checked this? Like that's why people get a hold of me. They're like, Here's my questions. Like, Have you checked this? We check this, we took this, we check this. They're like, I didn't do that last one. Great. Well, let's do that one. And then that's usually what it is. So yeah, so there's lots of little things, but we'll, we'll make sure that you get all those things checked out.Â
Person 2Â [00:42:51] And then I'm kind of curious because when you you've talked about how these old diets from the 80. They've broken our system. When you get somebody like that, how long does it take them to kind of recover from. Once you figure out that that's the problem and that's why they haven't been. Able to lose some of that fat.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:43:16] So it depends on the person, but it also depends on how much they ate. So everyone's body is a little bit different. So like you can get into that what we call somatic typing, because this is my favorite thing, like when when you start talking about diet function. In America, we focus on the people who have fat to lose or they have weight to lose. But we completely obliterate the idea that there's a lot of people who don't like we. Everybody knows that. Maybe, maybe not when you're 50 or 60. But everybody knew that guy or that woman growing up that no matter how much they ate, no matter what they drank, they never gained an ounce. Those that we refer to, those in the semantic function as ego morphs. Their bodies don't store things very well, which I guess if you're a woman, it would be great. But from the guys I talked to, it's it's horrible because they're sticks and they can't get any muscle mass. And so you have to gear a diet to be high functionality for insulin to put muscle mass on those guys. And so there is this big spectrum of, well, how did this diet affect you personally? And so we can go through and be like, by the way, this thing that, you know, some people like, for instance, some people do like the opioid epidemic. Some people would take one oxy and they are hooked. That's it like that to toast hundreds in addicted and other people take 50 and they're like, then they're fine. So things affect everyone a little bit differently. And so sometimes these toxic chemicals that this person that, you know, I knew eight and ten, eight and Susan eight and all these who eight didn't affect everybody is over ten. And so we're like, well, I don't understand. It's like molds a great example of this like you can have one person devastated by mold and everybody else in the house is like, I don't know what I'm talking about. I feel great. So we have two different selves that first then can go back through and peel it apart. But for most people, you can start repairing the damage within 3 or 4 months. Yeah.Â
Person 1Â [00:45:07] So. Also. I think that's it.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:45:11] Awesome. Good.Â
Person 1Â [00:45:12] All right. Thanks, man.Â
Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:45:14] Yep.Â
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