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Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:04] So. Today we're just talking about mindset. We talked about this a little bit earlier when I made a personal issue long ago about, you know, when we talk about changing diets and using glycemic function in the whole big deal and how the most important part of the having a trainer or a coach is. To maintain mindset function. So you do this a lot and what you do. Walk me through how some of this, of course, for you.

Maaxx West [00:00:32] You mean when I coach people?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:33] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:00:34] So I said, I think I've told you this last time. Like a long time back. I started as a trainer, like normal. I did training plans, I did diet plans. But I felt like it wasn't really it wasn't it didn't feel right. It didn't really it wasn't what I wanted to do. And I help people. But I had this one client that was really struggling, and I think she was like that turning point for me because I try to help her. And she was really following through like she was doing what she was supposed to. She was training, she was eating right. But then nothing was working for her. And I just started talking to this woman and we were just talking, talking, talking. And it turned out that she had she went through hell in her life and it was issues in her relationship and it was issues at work. And she was abused and he was just along just shit show of things. And so I just started talking to her and we were talking for months, so I wasn't even focusing on her doing her training and the eating and stuff. Like, you know, she had her plan and everything and she was doing what she could. But we were just talking and a couple of months later, because I wasn't telling her what to do, it was more just us talking as friends almost. And I said, Well, and I always like to ask people, even if I talk to two friends, if I talk to you, if I talk to anybody and you have an issue and you want to just vent to me about it, these days, I don't really try to say, Oh my God, I think you should do this. I just say this. Okay, so this is what you're going through right now, and if this doesn't change, can you live with that? And people always say no. And I said, there you have your answer.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:02:10] Yeah,.

Maaxx West [00:02:10] You all you just answered yourself. You need to change. You need to change something. So she ended up leaving her ex moved to a different city, got a new house for her and her daughter and got a new job. And it was just like it changed your whole life.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:02:26] Well, yeah. It's always fun. And I talk to people. It's just there. Like you say, Hey, could you change this thing, you know, Or your life can carry on. You're like, No. I'm like, Well, then why don't you change it? I think the biggest use is that they just don't. People will recognize things to change, but they're so fraid to just go ahead and take action on something like especially something large that they need to really going to help them like know you're making the right decision.

Maaxx West [00:02:54] Yeah

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:02:54] To do This thing.

Maaxx West [00:02:55] Well, people are so scared of change because, you know, something is going on. And even if it's bad, you're afraid of the unknown. Right?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:04] Right.

Maaxx West [00:03:04] You don't you're afraid of something because you don't know what it is, even though you know deep down in your heart that it could be much better.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:11] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:03:12] And. Could it be worse? I guess. Yeah, but if you're if you're in this position right now and it's just really shitty. Is it now worth the risk?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:23] I always think of this.

Maaxx West [00:03:23]  I think so. Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:25] You know, that's, you know, I we also look at our lives. I think both of us do this and it's always the. What can I work on to be better tomorrow.

Maaxx West [00:03:33] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:33] And that's you know, and I guess a lot of will that's not the given mindset they wake up with. Yeah. And so, you know, that's always been the thing that people who will be stagnant for years like I went back to my old I went back to Tulsa after 20 years and it hadn't changed at all. And that was the thing that I was the most sad about.

Maaxx West [00:03:52] That is that's scary to me when things don't change.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:55] Yeah, exactly. When I was was when I was in high school and I was I was 40 years old and I was just like now, like frescos changed a ton. But, you know, that's new growth. And that's that's always the big thing is. But I hang out with, you know, a lot of motivational speakers. I hang out.

Maaxx West [00:04:12] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:04:12] You know, business coaches and I hang out with, you know, professional athletes and stuff like that. So I think that we've all kind of just we become, you know, either a motivating force or a champion.

Maaxx West [00:04:23] Mhm.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:04:23] You've kind of got the thing down where you're going to, you know, work yourself to the position where you're going to be better every day.

Maaxx West [00:04:28] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:04:29] So I guess I always say trust.

Maaxx West [00:04:31] I tell people so I have for my clients so I give them basically little habits or little homework when it comes to mindsets. And I don't want to give people too much. Everyone is individual. I give them a couple of things at a time that they need to work on. But one thing that is very similar for all of them is that they need to start a morning in the night routine, basically starting, first of all, to figure out how to even do it. I have them write things down so as that my sister was just here. I did it with her in person. But so I tell people to take a whiteboard or a paper or a book or whatever that how you got and start just. Vomiting. Ouch.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:05:08] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:05:09] Write things down that you want to achieve. Like your dreams, your goals. And it should be mental goals. It should be like work related things. It should be physical items. It should be everything. Like, just write down everything you need and then try to prioritize them. And then you pick your most important things because I don't think you should do too many things. At the same time. I like to say maybe pick three things or so. That's what I've done for myself. I have a lot of vision, but I focus on three at a time and then you're going to start writing them down as your manifestations. And then every morning, every night and them same different depending on the person. But you're going to repeat these things. You're going to read them or repeat them in your mind or write them or say them out loud. So it's different for each person. But repeat this every morning, every night. And it only it only takes a couple of minutes. But and then basically for every time you do it, you need to get better at it and maybe changed a sentence. And for every time you say it, try to envision yourself where you're already there. So let's say like, okay, you want to have a house, the same house. Okay. You figure out what do I need to say? So let's say I'm just making shit up Now I want to have a big blue house by the beach next, you know, next year. Okay. Okay. So let's. Let's go more deep into it. Okay. So I want to have a big blue house on the beach that is already paid for in cash. You know, like, whatever. Like he can be whatever it is for the person and the for every time you said, like, in wishing that you're sitting in that house, that blue house on the beach and it's already paid for and just think that you're sitting there already and then you can do this with anything. You can apply it to absolutely anything. So that's I have these routines for all my clients now. And then on top of that, like all everything, so matching goes into it. So one thing that I also like to have as a very high priority self-care,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:07:03] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:07:04] So I have all my clients have at least once a week they have to do something for themselves that makes them feel good because this all goes into it. And I said, Yeah, eating well and exercising and all of it. It all makes your mind better and clearer and their function better and everything about, I don't know, like ultimately I just because we come so far in it, I, I wish you could just give it all to somebody at the same time. But you can't. So I take it in baby steps. I give them a little bit a thing to start at first and then when they perfected it. So I actually have a good, very good client of mine. She's very coachable. Some people are not coachable. This woman is very coachable, so she's amazing. With her training, her diet, she really follows everything and she has her dedicated cheat days and all these things. So I gave her the mindset routine. She's been doing it for months and she sent me a message the other day. I even think I showed it to you. And she said, I feel so much better and I'm so focused on the things that matter. I no longer focus on any bullshit. And she even said she has a job that she doesn't necessarily love. And she said, I have to work this weekend. She doesn't normally do it, she said, and it doesn't even bother me. And I said, Oh my God, this is amazing. So it's like she's there now. So then I applied a new routine to her, which is so I was like, Are you ready for another one? I said, Because now you got this in like, let's do something else. So then I keep adding new things into them, like all the time, because you have to do things like people are always, some people have indicated and they'll be like, okay, I don't work out right now and I don't eat according to a meal plan. I want to train six days a week and I'm going to I'm like, No, you're not.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:45] No,.

Maaxx West [00:08:46] You're not. How about two?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:48] Yeah, yeah,.

Maaxx West [00:08:49] No,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:50] That's it.

Maaxx West [00:08:50] You know, or I'm going to drink a gallon of water every day that I'm going to have zero cheat meals. But I don't want you to do that.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:08:57] Yeah, it's all we're looking for. Sustainability.

Maaxx West [00:09:00] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:01] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:09:02] People always like to do too much at the same time. And I said, that's my my goal. Like, I give them little bits and pieces and as soon as they have perfected something, okay, let's do something else.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:11] Well, you know, it's always funny is like, I'll start with people. I'm like, okay, what are your goals? And then, you know, who are like, I don't really know.

Maaxx West [00:09:18] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:18] This is staggering to me. And so I'm like, All right, well, let's, let's figure that out first.

Maaxx West [00:09:22] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:23] Yeah, we had to. We had to at first because we had to make sure we.

Maaxx West [00:09:25] I know that everybody has them in there. It's just a matter of and I sort of say like, take something to write off. Just start barking.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:34] All of it.

Maaxx West [00:09:35] Brain vomiting, everything. Just think of anything and everything in the whole world that you want.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:40] Well, and the big things are you're going to do that because people always start doing that and then they'll go home and this. All right. No, that's stupid. No, no,.

Maaxx West [00:09:46] No.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:46] Right. The stupid ones down to like, we will filter out the stupid ones later. No, I just need all the ideas that are in your head. Out of your head on the page.

Maaxx West [00:09:53] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:54] I don't care how the dumb they are, because you're always going to get some that are just really stupid and like, you'll write it down and you're like, That was dumb. But if I did it this way, it would be good. So that's why you write the dumb runs down because. Later, it will spur you to think of something else.

Maaxx West [00:10:08] Mm hmm.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:09] So but that's, you know, that is the big thing is, you know, getting your goals down, getting, you know, because without a point, we're shooting for this thing. How do we plan how to get to that point?

Maaxx West [00:10:19] Mm hmm.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:19] That's always what I tell people is, like, without a goal we have, we can't have a direction.

Maaxx West [00:10:23] No.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:23] So, you know, that's always the big. The big first thing with us is that I'll always try to figure out what their goals are. And then sometimes, you know, like you say, they're like, I don't do anything now and I want to do 17 things.

Maaxx West [00:10:36] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:36] And you're like, No, you're not. Or I feel like I want to do all the things you do. And I'm like, It's taken me 43 years to get here. Like, you know, you do all the stuff.

Maaxx West [00:10:44]  I want to achieve a million things to. But I even do it like I'm applying the same thing to myself as I do for my clients. Like, I want a lot of things and I do the same thing. I write it all down. But then I prioritize. Okay, what is most important to me right now? Because you can't focus on 85 things at the same time. You can't be. I used to be that person. And then I read many, many years ago, maybe ten years ago, I read the one thing and we read the book.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:11:09] I am not.

Maaxx West [00:11:10] The one thing. So it's about how to focus on one thing at a time. And I'm I have ADHD and all this thing. Like I always focus on the 85 things at the same time, but it doesn't work, you know. So I read the book and I was like, Wow, I really need to start working on this. So I still get a little sometimes like every now and then, but it's very rare and it doesn't. I This used to be 24 seven for me, and it doesn't even happen every week now that I get like that.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:11:39] Well, when you get really focused on, you know, to you can always dig down deep into one goal and fill your entire day with it. So if you're going to have 2 or 3, it would be pretty easy to be still really busy working on those, just 2 or 3. So yeah, and that's I think we I think I have about I think I keep about 2 or 3. I don't, I don't necessarily limit it, but I'm like, I focus on myself. Yeah but what it's really funny is the mindset piece is. Is important. It is for normal daily life. It's super hypercritical for any psychedelic or academy work because you've got to set up because it's always funny because there's a lot of research and there's a whole big medical group that thinks that. And to to be fair to them, the medication, the ketamine does an amazing amount of the work. However, if you you have to block it with that mindset if you. Okay. What is our intention for doing this? What is the setting we're going into? How is our mindset going to be going in? And then after you get through with it, it's what did I just see and experience and then how do I then utilize that information to apply to my life and then how do I feel? And so if you don't take in, I like to individualize it for my individual, like my concierge patients. But when you when you streamline like that, you get a lot more benefit out of it. But again, it's preparing the mindset for the mindset change you get with a psychotic drug like a calendar.

Maaxx West [00:13:03] So like we mentioned this for I've never done anything like this, but I said because I want to recommend it to somebody I love. I do want to I never want to recommend something I haven't tried and.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:13:13] Correct.

Maaxx West [00:13:13] Is that I am going to do it. And I don't know exactly for it's not a for a specific reason or a specific issue or anything, but I want to do it. And if I do it, can we document it?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:13:23] Absolutely. We'll walk through it so we can do we can do a couple of different things we want. We can do psilocybin or we can do ketamine, or we could do ketamine one weekend and then psilocybin another. Because I think once you start understanding. So the thing I like about you is that you have a very strong driven mind and you're very, very extremely open to change and getting more viewpoints and, and just exploring that piece. And so you'll do really well with both ketamine and psilocybin, because what happens in it is the I me part of it, which we call the ego dissolves into it. And so what we typically look at in young, we talk about this a lot. You have the you have the the ego, which is the I and me, the thing that we typically call ourselves. And we have the self, which is basically our subconscious. And then you have a third level, which is the universal subconscious. And this gets into really cool stuff where, you know, we're all part of one unit and that's one thing. But when you dissolve the self, I mean dissolve the ego into the self, this is where all your subconscious things are. So any problem that you will have that you're dealing with, maybe you don't even think about, that's when that comes up. And so that's why it's super important to set the mindset ahead of time of this is the path we're going to go. And so when these things come up, this is how we're going to greet them, this is how we're going to see them, this is how we're going to bring them into our lives. And then as it comes back through and you get done and you reintegrate, it's really it's a giant. Like you see some stuff here like. Yeah. If you explain anybody else, people like that is just a random craziness, you know, like. No, that made a lot of sense to me because it's like a dream rather than like a dream that nobody else would make sense to me. That makes any Sense.

Maaxx West [00:15:02] I don't think anything is weird. Nothing. I don't think there's anything that can be weird to me.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:15:09] And, you know, we were 100% documented, and so there's a couple of ways we can do that. So but yeah, we want 100%. And I'll walk you through that because a psilocybin deal, especially the first time you do it, you really want a guy to be there to kind of help you kind of steer back and forth. Because if you I don't think you would necessarily do this. But there's people and you start to kind of curve just a little bit left, right or a little bit towards the negative. And then because psilocybin really enhances the direction that your mind's going, you can push yourself into a really negative space pretty easily. If you don't know how to pull yourself back, you don't have a guy there to then pull you back.

Maaxx West [00:15:47] Okay?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:15:48] So it's like, Hey, remember that thing you told me about the puppies? And you're like, Oh, puppies? Yeah, you just cycle back into the happy. And so, like, that's what the guy said, that it's not necessarily that easy all the time, but that's kind of how it goes. But that's that piece of the mindset. We've had people get through and just come out and just tell us that it was the greatest experience of their lives, that the stuff that they were sitting time on that wasn't that important they don't care about at all anymore. And the things that were really important. But we're kind of on the back burner, like I'm laser focused on that stuff. So I think you would be Yeah, I think you would really.

Maaxx West [00:16:19] I know what I was focused on, but I'm very curious though, like what, what this was.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:16:24] Well, and it's funny because like I had when I did my exact same reason breaks. I talked to, you know, my dog buddy, my dog partner, and I was like, hey. And I was like, I got to do this. And he was like, Why? What's wrong with you? I was like, Nothing. My life's awesome. And he was like, Well, that we can't do this. And I was like, Legally, we can't, like, you know? And so we finally came up was like, okay, I have some anxiety. And it's funny because we were like joking around about it. And I'm like, Yeah, I guess we all have a little PTSD. So I thought I had a I had PTSD because my heart rate at the time was in the 90s. And I don't like I'm not trying to hide this for like the past 20 years. My heart, my resting heart rate has been in the 90s and nobody could figure out why. Well, so I do ketamine and the next morning it was in the 70s and it was in the 70s for like the past three months.

Maaxx West [00:17:12] Then guess what my resting heart rate is.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:17:16] So well for for women. I've seen resting heart rates in the like high end athletes in the 40s.

Maaxx West [00:17:21] Yeah. That's where I am.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:17:22] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:17:23] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:17:23] So but for guys like so mine, if you got all my sympathetic issues fixed mine would probably be in the 60s. But that, that was how I knew I was broken because it was like my heart rate shouldn't be this high.

Maaxx West [00:17:35] Yeah, that's a lot.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:17:36] And the only thing I can trace it back to is a car wreck. I was when I was like 18, 19 years old. And so but I know it was high because I when I first went and did neuro testing, my neurology teacher, like Saturn's like, Are you high? And I was like, no. And was like, Are you feeling okay? I was like, Yeah. He's like, your heart rates 90 use like for someone in your shape, it should be 60. And I was like, Alright, whatever. And so for like 20 years is where it was. And then when I did my ketamine, yep, I had this choose that I didn't, I didn't even recognize I had until afterwards. And now my heart's Like,

Maaxx West [00:18:10]  Oh, I'm sure I have something.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:18:11] That everybody it's not something.

Maaxx West [00:18:12] Yeah, definitely.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:18:13] That's why it was funny because I just.

Maaxx West [00:18:15] I just it feels like I'm not saying I think does it feels like I've been able to work it through. I it feels like I've been able to work everything through that I had. But I am sure that is not the case.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:18:27] Well, and that's, you know, it's funny because that's how I feel too, because like when I have an issue, like I got mad at somebody the other day, I got angry at a family member the other day, and then I walked it through my head and it was like. You're not angry. You had the same emotion of, you know, basically longing for X amount of time. And, you know, you didn't listen to these emotions so that they're now they're presenting as anger. And so, like that type of stuff, you can start walking back through that. And that's not super difficult to understand or grasp. Yeah. But the fun thing is that when you do the ketamine and you do some of these psychedelics, there's things that you didn't even remember from 20 years ago that pop up and you're like, Oh, I remember that now. That was a little stressful and then it's gone.

Maaxx West [00:19:12] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:19:14] That's that's that's the big thing right now. The one thing that everyone has too much of is stress and psychological trauma. And the the only way we're going to get through this is if we do a lot of mindset work, therapy work, you know. And I really think the psychedelics really come in and really help boost that through. We're able to do things with psychedelics that we, you know, you do a little bit of mindset, work with them again at the beginning and then we can hit them with the psychedelics and then your coach, your therapists, whoever can then walk you through the next couple steps of where you need to go. And I think that's a really big benefit to the things that you and I are doing. But the thing is just for mental health in the next couple of years regardless. So it's real exciting. But I I'm super excited about it. We talk about all the time, but.

Maaxx West [00:20:01] I was saying as I like my thing has been the no blow club. Like I want to help people with gut issues and I want to help people understand nutrition. But mindset is, here's when I picked the name Noble Club, I was picking between that and another name that had to do with mind. And I was like, What's going to apply more to people? Everyone's bloated, right? Yeah, that's how I picked a name. But to be completely honest, is almost a 5050 there.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:20:29] Well, and the biggest thing is that when you start looking from a neurologic side, the second or the psych psychiatric or the psychological stress that people get into shuts off, it shuts units into a sympathetic nervous system state and shuts off all the functions of your gut. So you can't really fix the gut until you fix the mind.

Maaxx West [00:20:48] Yep. Mind goes first.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:20:50] Yeah,.

Maaxx West [00:20:50] 100%.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:20:51]  And that's always been the big thing for I think both of us are just something we talk about.

Maaxx West [00:20:56] Yeah. But I think to us that like having conversations with people just in general, a lot of people. Are not there to to understand that.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:21:09] Yeah,

Maaxx West [00:21:11] I don't even know why or how somebody thinks that way, but it is. Common. And like I said, I'm not as socialized a lot, but when I am out and socializing, I talk a lot and I have conversations with people and it's it's very common that. People don't think that the mindset matters.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:21:34] Which is why I think I would just go through life without. I don't know if there's any time on it.

Maaxx West [00:21:40] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:21:40] Because every time you talk to some, you talk it through. I'm like, those are the like, I don't think it matters how much you talk to me for five minutes. Like I. I guess it matters quite a bit, but I, I don't think that people put enough thought into, you know, if I just go and do this thing, I don't know how I feel or think or look at life. This thing is still going to be the same way. It's done the same way. And the problem is, is that the way you look at stuff, the way that you decide to attack life, the way that you decide to focus yourself on a task matters tremendously to your long term health and to the function of how long it's going to be that you're doing this task. You you do the same task 50 times. You still love it or it can drive you insane. Yeah, just depends on how you want to look at it.

Maaxx West [00:22:22] Yeah. As that I actually, as I have, I've been thinking this way for many, many years, but it was like this one sentence that actually Tommy, Tommy told me once that everything in life happens for you and nothing happens to you. And ever since he said that sentence. I have not since that day is that everything in life is either good or just it is.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:22:43]  Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:22:44] There's no positive and negative. For me, it's positive. And the other thing just is like, so whenever something happens in my life that is not a very is just not a directly positive thing, it's just a thing.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:23:02] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:23:02] And I'm just like, okay, that's the thing. And we handle it and that's great. And I learned something, but I it's, it's not a bad thing because I learned something. So, I mean, it will end up to be a positive thing, too.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:23:16] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:23:17] And I think. All the time. You just hear people. Why does this happening to me?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:23:22] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:23:23] Because it didn't happen to you. But you just told yourself it did.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:23:27] Yeah. You put yourself in that position where something's happening to you.

Maaxx West [00:23:30] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:23:31] You know. Not for you or with you. You know, it's one of those things that, you know, we talk about this a lot. You know, you either get it gives you wanted or you got a lesson. And if you take it that way and you figure out, okay, well, this is how I'm going to be able to fix it in the future, then that's, you know, that makes a tremendous difference in how you're going to go about things. So, yeah, my big thing and people ask me like, you know, we talk about diet all the time and people are like, Hey, you weren't you weren't at 22 too fast. Is that is that the like the best way to lose weight is that I'm like, no, I do it because it's hard. The more the more hard things you choose to do, the easier hard things get to do.

Maaxx West [00:24:12] Yes. Right.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:24:14] That's, you know, with life, if you're if your daily hard is a 2 or 3. And life throws you a five, you are going to get crushed. Yes. But if you're like, hey, my daily life is a 4 or 5 hard by my choosing. Then life throws you a five year like I did not enjoy this. But you can deal with it.

Maaxx West [00:24:31] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:24:32] And so that's that's. I think, you know, why do we do long, fast? Why do we do like, why do we work out to the point where we can't move? Like, there's all the things that you do and you're like, I'm going to do these things because they're hard.

Maaxx West [00:24:42] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:24:43] You know, like it was Ryan set up a whole building your machine deal, and it was like, okay, write a bestselling book. Okay. I did that and I did a TEDTalk, and we've done all the other things. And it's just like, you know, you start looking for those things, you're like, I never would have thought I could have done this.

Maaxx West [00:24:57] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:24:58] 6 or 7 years ago.

Maaxx West [00:24:59] Mm hmm.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:24:59] But then you just decide when you get in the right mindset, but you turn around the right people. Right?

Maaxx West [00:25:05] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually one thing I do with my clients now. I have them think about in questioning the people in their lives.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:25:13] Yes.

Maaxx West [00:25:13] Because I tell them if. If you're an example, I have a client that. Her surrounding liked to do things that she doesn't necessarily like to do, as I want to say. So anybody knows who it is. But she they want to do things that she doesn't necessarily do, but she feels like she has to do it, you know, and it's repeatedly like this. And she doesn't you know, she just does it because she feels like she's kind of like an asshole if she doesn't do it. And I said to her, so if you don't do these things, just your friends get annoyed at you. Yeah. Yeah, they do. I said, Is that a friend?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:25:50] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:25:50] What kind of friend is that? So I said, I know this sounds crazy, but maybe you should start surrounding yourself. Go to new places. Go find a new fucking restaurant or new coffee. Shop around you, Jim. Start talking to other people. There are other people out there. But is that I am at that point in my life where? I've cut a lot of people out of my life. And if somebody is my friend and it just does that, we don't align anymore. I still love you and you're great, but we don't need to hang out anymore.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:26:21] Well, you know, I always tell you, like, because, like, I talk about this a lot with people as they are, as are growing up in their company. They're growing up as a person and they're like, you know, these people don't serve me anymore. They're bringing me down. And I'm like, Look, like, it's not that you're leaving them or you're leaving. You're cutting them out. Here's basically what happened. You know your neighbors, right? You walked around the block and then you got back to your house and you were like, I think I'm going to go one more time. And they said, I've had enough. I'm not. And so you had to go on by yourself. It wasn't that they were bad. It was their journey was over. And you're still had places to go. And that's what's going on. You're not necessarily cutting people out. You're just like, I am growing. And I love and respect the fact that you were here for this part of my journey.

Maaxx West [00:27:03] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:27:03] But from here on out, I need to go do something else.

Maaxx West [00:27:05] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:27:06] And you get that way a lot where you'll find that, like, the vaccine thing, I think was a big, big deal.

Maaxx West [00:27:12] Yes,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:27:12] Because we talked to a lot like we we we had family members who, like we finally had to tell them like, you know, we're not going to do the vaccine. You guys can do whatever you want to, but we're kind of done talking about it.

Maaxx West [00:27:23] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:27:24] So, you know, that was a big I think everybody comes to those things where there's, you know, the person you're dating or something like that. You kind of just or the job you get or where you want to go. It's so funny. One of my friends, her husband's going to be a welder and one of the other parents in the LA group thought it was just such a so, so terrible. And she was all about how horrible it was. And I explained to her how much others make. And then it was like, Oh, okay. And I'm like, How could you be around this person? Like, you know, this is like, this is what I want to do, like with my life and like, well, that's not good.

Maaxx West [00:28:03] Even if they didn't make that much money. Like what? What?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:28:05] I don't know.

Maaxx West [00:28:06] What is that?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:28:07] I don't know. Like, it's like we need welders a lot. Like, it's. It's not even like, you know, it's only like I'm going to sit at home.

Maaxx West [00:28:17] My friend is a welder, actually. And they make. Yeah, they Make..

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:28:19]  They, they they do well. So, yeah, like people always ask me like, do you want your kids to be doctors? Mike No, I want them to be plumbers ratio guys because like the trades, again, this is a mindset thing. People do. Like, I have to go to college if I want to make any money. The trades are the where it's at right now because like for every three plumber, for every plumber, we gain and we lose three. And I have several plumbers as patients of mine. And it's always funny because they're like, if you're if you have a leak in your hardwood floors and it's it's $1,000 for me to come out, work on that or you lose a $40,000 floor, which one you want. And I'm like, I'm going to pay you the thousands. Of course you are. Is like everybody is. And I was like, Man, I have the wrong job.

Maaxx West [00:29:05] Well, I think that I was like, Damn, I should have done that. Now I'm doing exactly what makes me happy.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:29:11] So that's that is the other thing is, you know. If you can find the thing, if you can find a way to make money off the thing that you really enjoy.

Maaxx West [00:29:21] I think it's the only way.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:29:22] That's the only way to do it.

Maaxx West [00:29:23] If somebody says something that people tell me all the time is, you know, I, I can work from anywhere I want. I travel wherever I want, whenever I want. And I kind of just I work when I want to.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:29:36] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:29:36] And if I have a day as I love what I do, so I typically always work. But if I have a day and I just don't want to do anything work related, I can't just skip it. So people always say, Oh, thanks, I wish I had your life and I wish I could do that. And you know, everything is so sad, but you can What? No, I can't because and then this, this season and I said, Well, you made that choice, though. Like, you made that choice to be that. And do you want to know what my dream was when I was a kid to be free? That was my number one dream because every day I saw my mom having to she was doing curtains and she was cooking food and she had to do this as you had to do that because my dad was always traveling.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:30:18] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:30:19] And my dream was to be free. When I was very tiny, I didn't really know what that meant. So I wanted to be a flight attendant because I thought if I was a flight attendant, I would never be home. And then I realized I don't want to be a flight attendant. That was not what it was, but I wanted to be free. And that's what I am now. Very think that I have changed the profession in which I am free. I've done I mean, I'm a photographer, I am a coach, and I compete. And then I soon launching actually a coffee company. And, you know, I do a lot of fun things. But everything I do, I still maintain that I need to be free.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:30:53] Yeah,.

Maaxx West [00:30:53] Because that was my biggest dream of my life.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:30:56] Well, and that's that's one of those things that, you know, that that's also really important to remember because everyone's fall. Something's going to come along and seem like, well, you get something really cool if you sacrifice just a little bit of your dream and then enough of those things come up. This is how I see this all the time with people.

Maaxx West [00:31:12] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:12] And they make it's not a one concession. It's not like you gave up all your dream all at once. People give up on stuff. Little bits at a time.

Maaxx West [00:31:20] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:21] And then 3%. 2%, 5%. And then all of a sudden, you know, they've given up.

Maaxx West [00:31:26] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:26] And you kind of had to walk it back through me. Like, do you see these choices?

Maaxx West [00:31:30] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:31] And they're like, Yeah, but, you know, like, well, you know, we can work,.

Maaxx West [00:31:34] But what?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:35] Exactly. We can work through these all the time. But, you know, if this is really your dream and you're miserable, it's probably because you're grinding against your purpose.

Maaxx West [00:31:42] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:31:43] If you grind with your purpose, you like, you know, it's like a before and read medical research every day. And I still love it, but there's more than it still happens all the time where it's 6:00 and I'm ready to go, you know workout with my, my, my oldest and what am I in the middle of an article that I I'm really interested in? And so, you know, I've been doing that for a decade. But that's, again, in line with my purpose. And so, you know, that amount of grinding is never going to get tiresome, you know.

Maaxx West [00:32:11] But I think, too, I do. I love working. I really freaking love working. I could sometimes when I am so inspired, I just don't go to bed. At night, just work as. I do. You know, my favorite thing is to do like a Friday or Saturday night. People might, you know, go out, whatever the hell they do. I love sitting by my computer and work on all the ideas I have.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:32:36] Well, and that's you to get around

Maaxx West [00:32:38] Because I'm but I love it. So I love it because I do something that I'm passionate about, but also because I mean, I don't have to do any of this. Nobody sitting there telling me that, oh, I have to work because it's this time of the day now.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:32:51] Yeah. Well, and that goes back to that. Do something hard. It's like everyone's trying to be like, okay, I'm going to read an extra hour just because and then I go to this thing I want to do.

Maaxx West [00:33:00] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:33:00] Right. Because it's like sooner or later it's going to to the point where like, no, you're going to be pushed up against a deadline and you're going to have to work harder and you're going to have your minds. You start wondering. You have to learn how to bring it back to focus. And so that's always been one of those things that, again, I'm like, you know what? It's not that big of a sacrifice to give it, you know, 30 more minutes or give it another hour just so you'll be ready the next time you need it. And that's been a big piece that, you know, I think I've done that I've tried to impart on. Other people are just kind of the focus piece. But that's always been that's what's been helpful for me.

Maaxx West [00:33:34] Well, I think I like her too, actually. Are you talking about the fast before I tell you so my whole life I've been against fasting and I've always had this.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:33:43] So why? Why? Why? Against fasting?

Maaxx West [00:33:44] No, but I did it fast. I told You.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:33:46] I know. I know.

Maaxx West [00:33:47] 42 hours.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:33:48] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:33:49] Was my whole life. But I've tried before, and I always felt not okay. I would have these blood sugar crashes ever since I was a kid. If I didn't eat, I would be on the ground shaking, feeling I'm going to throw up. And I've done, you know, blood work and such in the past. And they will tell me you have this blood sugar sensitivity, yada, yada. So I was always against fasting, and I know a lot of people that do it. And I said, you know, for some people this is perfect.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:34:14] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:34:14] But I said so. I met somebody that does a lot of fasting, right? And we're talking about it a lot. And I was like, fuck. He's like, It's annoying to me that I feel so sick if I don't eat. I mean, what if what if shit goes down in the world and we're not getting food? Like, I can't be laying down the ground shaking. I need to be out hunting, right? So I said, no, I'm really going to try and I'm going to do it like all in here.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:34:39] Yeah.

Maaxx West [00:34:39] So it was actually when I was on the cannabis last time.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:34:42] Oh yeah.

Maaxx West [00:34:43] But I did the speech there and I was thinking because I really listened to my speech afterwards and I didn't even say or anything. One time I was like, Oh my God, I did that speech so good. I was like, Maybe because so fast.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:34:56] It's so it's weird.

Maaxx West [00:34:57] Just your head. I felt so bad I was hurting. My whole body hurts so bad. I'm on the phone with my friend and I was like, I don't know, this is so weird. I said, I'm in pain and I'm in pain like my chest. I'm having trouble breathing so much. It hurts so much. But I'm so happy and I'm so my head is so clear. I'm like, This makes no sense, you know? I'm like, I'm such a good mood, right? That's what I'm walking around and I'm just like, I was so.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:35:26] So I was like, would I do long fasts like this? Like, I don't get I don't get hungry. I do miss the meal, though.

Maaxx West [00:35:33] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:35:33] In a weird way. But I. Yeah, I feel. I feel more in control. I feel like I might just might. My abs are tighter. Like I have more control.

Maaxx West [00:35:46] you swell up like a balloon. That's that's the thing. But so I fast.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:35:50] Supplement when you fast are just nothing but water.

Maaxx West [00:35:52] Salt. Yeah. No, I mean, I just did that one time. I've done, like, little shorter things, but I swell up my stomach, look like I'm pregnant. But the moment I start eating, it all goes away. So I get very, very swollen and bloated and watery and like, my joints hurt and everything, but it goes right away when I start eating. Because my friend me, she's like, Oh, I'm fast and I look all dry and shredded. I'm like oh.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:36:17] I would, I would, I would actually, I think be interesting to get like a continuous glucose monitor on you and kind of like maybe run some insulin on as you're doing it. That would be very fun.

Maaxx West [00:36:28] Insulin.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:36:29] Oh yeah. So now people don't sell insulin. They're like, My God, that is my it. You can I tell you, it's how you detect and fix diabetes. It's how you like, it's how you fix none of all syndrome, like it's all insulin based. And the amount of people that like people will come in and bring me their labs and they're like, my doctor said, I'm fine, but I feel miserable and I'm tired and I hurt. And I look at their labs, I'm like, okay. And then I'll go pull their hormones, their insulin, and, you know, I'll look for the metabolic stuff and we'll do DNA and stuff like that. And I'll be like, Okay, here's exactly why you feel like crap. And they're like. And so I was like, Well, how come, you know, they didn't pull us? I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know why they're not pulling the last most of it, the insulins, the big one, that's why it's one of the ones that you've really got to watch that tells you a ton about the body. So if we can figure out where your insulin is when you're in this fast and we know glucose as it might be, one of those things where we're just like, look, if you're going to do this, you've got to do it this way with this supplementation, otherwise you're gonna have this process.

Maaxx West [00:37:28] I don't to me, I don't see a benefit in doing it. I would happily do it once in a while for health reasons, but in my life and how I do things and my training and my everything I do, I did it because I wanted to push myself

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:37:45] Well And so that. There's a lot of things I think people should do for mindset work. Like, for instance.

Maaxx West [00:37:51] I just like a challenge.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:37:52] And I'm going to get I'm going to get crucified for this, but I don't I have not read research I understand from you and I like and that supports. Cold plunging in the way that people talk about it like this, you know, 2 or 3 times the calorie burn for the day, if you like. And I'm like, I don't think that's how you.

Maaxx West [00:38:16] Know, I don't know that I've always heard because I call sweet and. When I live there, I had a actually an ex-boyfriend that was from way up north where it's cool, this shit. And I've always heard this like, this is just 25 years ago. I heard that, you know, you're the body burns more if you're in a very cold climate or something. So it might be something to that. But if it's actually I heard that thing with the coal plants, too. I mean, where do they get that from, though?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:38:43] Well, I think so. So I would hundred percent get it. If you're cold right now, you will burn a lot more calories.

Maaxx West [00:38:49] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:38:50] Right. But the problem I get into is like, so you did a ten minute cold plunge and you tripled the calories you burned when you were sitting still being cold. So you might have burned for extra calories like but just the I don't know.

Maaxx West [00:39:03] Oh, like they counted like that.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:39:05] Right. But I don't I mean, if you burn six and then you burn four actually.

Maaxx West [00:39:08] That's sounds good for a promo.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:39:10] Well and so that but that's I don't like and that's I'm not saying I'm not saying it's wrong. I just I don't. I don't get I don't get some of that stuff. So, you know. But.

Maaxx West [00:39:20] I mean, has a lot of benefits. I don't know if that's the one I would push for.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:39:24] Well, it's like I like I like I like some of that stuff for a lot of reasons. My number one reason is always going to be if you decide to wake up in the morning and do something that is already miserable for ten minutes, you're going to get a lot of mental gain. That is for me by far. I don't care what we want to write chemistry because I'm a neuron. I'm a guy, I'm a mind guy. That whole thing, the consistency of choosing to be miserable for a benefit that you're going to get diluted on the road is, I think, the best part of that whole.

Maaxx West [00:39:54] Yeah. I don't have a cable show. I did. I hate cold. I swear, I've always said my mom. I swear I'm like, allergic to cold.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:40:01] Yeah,.

Maaxx West [00:40:01] My body just shuts down. It's like I'm not even cold. It's like I'm dead. I don't do well in court. So the first time ever, which is only a couple of years ago, I tried, like, a crier session.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:40:13] Alright?

Maaxx West [00:40:13] I thought I was not going to make it out. I really thought that. And then I was done, and I was like, my whole nose are like, just together. I couldn't breathe. And I was like, oh, my God, I can't live like this. And I was like, What the fuck, Maaxx? I was like, this, You know, this. Like, people do this shit. Like I got to be able to do it. So then I think I went there the next time I was like, I'm going to do it again. This is only like two days later or something. I was like, I'm going to fucking do it. And I remember I walked in and I did like twice the time and it wasn't even that bad. And then I walked out. I was like, Oh, I can do this. And then after that, I've done it so many times, I swear I going to that class and I just tell myself. This is fucking nothing. And then I just sit there and I'm like, I was sitting in my friend's house and she's like, You're just sitting there like nothing and just talking. And I was like, I can't even feel this thing even more. It's I mean, it's so it's all mental.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:41:10] Well, it's so I guess that's why I love it for mental. But from the chemistry set, what I just like. So back on the fasting thing, I don't think this goes back to the whole everybody's chemistry is different. I don't think fasting is as beneficial for everybody as everybody says it is.

Maaxx West [00:41:26] No.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:41:27] So like, I think it's wildly beneficial for fat burning people. So you're you're in no more of your Mazo and those, you know, maybe your margins are pretty small.

Maaxx West [00:41:37] As far as like virus and stuff like for healing.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:41:41] So if you are sick with oh, so the adrenaline rush, you know what? I'm not I'm not opposed to cold plunging when you're sick. It's just.

Maaxx West [00:41:51] You know, talking about the fasting. All right.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:41:53] Oh, sorry. Fasting. So again, if you're sick, you need to feed your body more so nutrients than with calories unnecessarily. But. Now, if you stick with, like, it like like a flu. If you're if you're, you know, if you're not hungry, you don't have to eat. But I wouldn't be fasting while you have the flu. But if you're there's a lot of bacteria, there's a lot of like gut stuff that there's a lot of yeast stuff that just not eating in faster and keeping everything out of all the chemistry out is a really easy way to purge things out. So it depends on it depends on which issue you have, why you're sick. Quote unquote, why you're feeling bad as to whether or not, you know, that would be great. I really like it for when we have gallbladder issues, which are usually liver issues, are not really gallbladder issues. So if you can fast for a couple of days and we can pump you full of methylated B vitamins, specifically methylated sex and keep everything clean, it helps clean the liberal but faster because it gives a chance to going to catch up.

Maaxx West [00:43:02] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:43:03] But I don't know. I like the idea that you should always fast when you're sick. I've read that and I'm like,

Maaxx West [00:43:10] Yeah. Well, I have somebody I know that had Covid and festered like two days and then was basically okay, then this is like a healthy person anyway. It's not a regular average person.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:43:27] Yeah, I would definitely not I would not specifically fast for Covid covid's vascular issue. And you've got to keep nutrient and function high. When you're when you're wearing a hypoxic state. Because here's the so here's the problem, right? So you look at like epileptics. And so when they have sleep apnea, which a lot of them do and nobody ever checks for it when they when they have that every day. So they have hypoxia issues all the time. Right. And can give you hypoxia issues. However, when they then don't eat right and not enough sleep, they have a seizure. So if you've got if you've got something depressed in your system, like like a virus to, say Covid, especially in the oxygen category, the last thing you want to do is restrict any creation of ATP or any creation of nutrient or any any glucose crashes. That'll that'll be really, really bad for you all the way across the body. So because when you when you have energy issues or glucose shock issues, it shocks the entire system. And so the things are trying to fight the virus. It's in shock them, too. So in that case, I would try I would probably want to just feed properly while you.

Maaxx West [00:44:39] Yeah, that's I mean, personally, that's what I would do if I don't. First of all, I don't get sick. But if I had anything, I would be any even more perfect with my with my meals.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:44:52] And that's, you know, I was taught I've talked to people all the time. Do you think taking supplements during fasting makes it no longer fasting? And

Maaxx West [00:45:01]  I guess it depends what kind of supplements.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:45:04] But you know, are B vitamins and stuff like that. Like I can kind of understand if you're taking omega three fatty acids, you're like, well, that's oil. And, you know,.

Maaxx West [00:45:11] Yeah,.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:45:12] I'm a So this you got into the fasting thing is I am a glycemic change person If you do eat any if you consume anything that will affect the glycemic change at all, then you've broken your fast. So which is why you can do bone broth, Why you can do water and coffee and tea and stuff like that, which have obviously nutrients and lots of those things have a little bit of calories, but they don't change your glycemic function, so they don't actually break your fast. And I always think it's funny because like I have people who I argue with and they're like, are you going to bone broth that you can't do supplements? Like what about like college and supplements? Like, No, no supplements make The reason that you're consuming the bone broth is for the amino acids that's in the collagen. The same reason I'm taking collagen supplementation and they're like, Oh, well, it's just different. I'm like, okay. But so but the thing is, I just in that statement, I pissed off 100 different fasting people, right? Because like, everybody thinks that the way that they do it is the only way to do it.

Maaxx West [00:46:12] But where did they learn this from? Where do they.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:46:15] Well, the other thing is, is the philosophy thing, right? Cause I'm like your body see two things. They need calories and they need nutrients. And the idea of, well, we'll just work off the stored nutrients. Well, one of first of all, how do you know you have stored nutrients like our food is so trash and unless you sub heavily every day, you probably don't have anything stored up. And so you're just going to go without. So you're going to have no calories and no nutrition. And so I don't understand how that's a beneficial function. So like when we like when I do like for Windows, it is the easiest way to cut. Like you get into a cathartic state no more and you just give yourself some supplementation and fast for 4 or 5 days and it's just gone. And so, like, that's the fastest way for guys like me to lose fat. But you've got to do it right, because if you don't do it right, you're going to be miserable. But you know, and it's going to hurt you. But again, it's, you know, who is doing it, What is the goal we're going for? And then how do we apply that goal to their chemistry to make their body get where we want to go?

Maaxx West [00:47:20] So what is this is we're talking about the body type. So what would be the according to you, the best way for an actor of like me to lose fat?

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:47:29] To lose fat?

Maaxx West [00:47:32] Is I know what I do, but.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:47:34] You guys have the hardest time keeping. So if you running. So we're okay. So we're talking about let's say,

Maaxx West [00:47:39] I dont want to lose muscle,

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:47:41] Right?  So we don't want to lose muscle. Do you want to shred out right for a contest or something like that? So what I would do so so actor monster are extremely tight with their like string function. So I would you can cut the glycemic function down just a skosh but keep the calories where they are even even the carbohydrate load the same but just swap foods out so you have a lower set of your glycemic function and that should stretch you out really, really easily.

Maaxx West [00:48:05] Is that so? I mean, what I do when I am on prep, I don't really cook the calories. That's not what I do. I just get extremely precise with the exact foods and I eat the same freaking thing all the time. There is no flexible if I can, nothing.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:48:21] No.

Maaxx West [00:48:21] And that's just as I'm eating the same calories up until I am only weeks out.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:48:28] Yeah well that's that's you know and.

Maaxx West [00:48:30] It's it's just like magic happens it's, it's only I said if I would actually cut a little bit sooner I probably drop faster but if I it's like I'm here and I don't change anything and I don't change anything and I don't change it and all the weight just comes off. And I didn't change anything little like I just, well, kept being consistent.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:48:50] You diluted, more, a little bit more. A little bit more than just something that's all.

Maaxx West [00:48:54] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:48:55] With the problem that we've got with actor Morse and we you and I have this conversation a couple times is privately is that you've got to be careful that you're not going to take off too much.

Maaxx West [00:49:05] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:49:06] Because yes it'll all fall off.

Maaxx West [00:49:07] Yes.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:49:08] And so you're done with it. And it's just like, yeah, I just lost 5 pounds. Like that was not what we were trying to do. But the biggest thing is, is that so when you look at somebody who's in a highly glucose hard state, like an actor, morph and we're trying not to lose muscle mass, the number one thing you've got to do is flood the body with loose, easy proteins like collagen. There's others, but like like collagen. And the reason for that is because the reason your body breaks in your muscle tissue is to use it through gluconeogenesis to create more sugar to run your body. So you give it loose based protein. So we can use those amino acids to go back to the system, you know, extra lactate and stuff like that. So I can can break that stuff down instead of breaking your muscle tissues down, then that's how we maintain mass during a fast. That's how we maintain mass. You know, in someone like yourself when we're cutting because we have to really because you can't be like, well, just increase, you know, eat four more steaks. That's. That's. I can't do that. I've got to shrink the organs to. To make everything.

Maaxx West [00:50:04] Yeah.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:50:05] So the collagen comes in and plays a really great role. Those loose, those loose bound proteins work really, really well for that. So

Maaxx West [00:50:11] This should be a whole other it's on podcasts.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:50:14] But it's the science. It's funny because I tell everybody all the time it's chemistry over calories as far as weight loss goes. And the reason I say that is because it's you know, I always, you know, look at the DNA first, you know, and that's how they give you that. See, the DNA really does is it gives you a really good job of a viewpoint and where you're smarter type is. And then once you can dial that smile, type it in really well, that's even your macro. Then you look at all the hormone function and then you can kind of go back down and say, okay, now one of the weird things that we have, this is where we start playing with mental stuff, is where we start playing with, you know, you need more manganese, you need more of this or that. We start really dialing it in. But if you do those first, just the just basically the smarter type and the hormones, 85% of people are going to get where they want to go. Like, you're going to have the you're going to have the guys who are like, I want to be on stage reading more stuff. The vast majority of people, if you just figure out those two things, easy peasy.