The discussion centers around the concept of hierarchy, exploring its role in both personal and social contexts. Hierarchy is defined by the value or authority assigned to different aspects of life, with examples like height and material possessions. By understanding these hierarchies, individuals can better comprehend how they are perceived and valued in society, and how they might improve or change their standing.

It also delves into the misconceptions surrounding calorie counting and the use of BMI as health measures. Hormonal responses, rather than just caloric intake, play a crucial role in body functions like fat storage and energy use. By focusing on these hormonal influences and understanding the limitations of conventional health metrics, individuals can make more informed decisions about their health and well-being.

Highlights of the Podcast

00:04 - Introduction to Hierarchy
01:23 - Example: Height in Personal Hierarchy
02:43 - Application of Hierarchy to Other Aspects
05:11 - Society's Role in Shaping Hierarchy
06:13 - Building Personal Avatars Based on Hierarchies
08:10 - Calories and Misconceptions
10:10 - Hormonal Responses vs. Caloric Intake
12:12 - Critique of BMI as a Health Measure
13:26 - Final Thoughts on Hierarchy and Manipulation

Dr. Chalmers [00:00:04] one of them was. What is the hierarchy? So the hierarchy, this talks a little about in psychology. I don't know if it's a psychology thing. Probably it's talked about a lot as reference, a lot. So, the hierarchy is the definition is the way that things are slotted, assuming charge according to value or authority. Okay. What the hierarchy actually is, is there's two main hierarchies. There's the personal and the social. And the, the fun side piece is how the interplay. But the personal, hierarchy is the things that you personally value and the way that you value. So for instance, if you have. If you're looking at height. Right. So you look at, you know, height for individuals as it goes up in value also normally goes down. And You know I'm sorry is up in rarity. So, for instance, if, a person says, you know, I want to take someone who's six feet off, which is 14.5% of the male population in the United States, six feet tall. Over. So.

Dr. Chalmers [00:01:23] The the value and the importance of that specific height. 61626364 comes up. So for institute interview, you know, if you ask somebody what is the perfect height. And they said six foot two for a man. Well the amount of people who are six foot two is is in that that specific spot. Then they're six, three, six, four, six, five and then, you know, six foot two, six seven. And so what that introduces is okay, so this amount of people are perfect for your individual process like you want six foot two. This is this is the point of that one. And then higher is lesser of value and shorter is lesser value. and so what ends up happening is that people are ranked upon that thing. So if someone's six one and a half, the more valuable to that person, then, someone who's five foot taller and so the more desirable if you are, the more sought after. And so that's how that one works for height. Now, the thing is, that works for everything. Remember that it's a sliding scale, right? There's here's perfect. This is too tall. This is too short. And it works for pretty much everything in India, for their individual verticals, for individual things.

Dr. Chalmers [00:02:43] So for instance, working in a car, and you're like, okay, well, you know, the things that are, that are valuable or sought after in a vehicle. So horsepower to move on to will be one. Styling will be one comfortable seats, radio, top speed 0 to 60. Exclusivity. One of the reasons that Ferrari celebrities are so sought after is because they're hard to get. They don't make a whole lot of them. They're really expensive. So having one is kind of special, which is like seeing one like, so right now the Cybertruck is going to big. You know, you're like, oh, I saw one. Like it's rare. And so having something that nobody else has has a very, very high appeal value. And so those are two things. All computers. One is one entity. So when you start looking at an individual, you have to look at kind of what does the person want. And so if someone wants, you know, a guy who's six feet tall, which is fortunate happens in the population. And then you also want to know who makes over 100 K. I think the combination of those like 3%, the male population in the United States. So as you get more specific, it narrows it down more and more and more.

Dr. Chalmers [00:03:58] And so you can you can look at the hierarchy from a standpoint of individual parts. So you're like, okay, height is one. And so wherever society or person deems perfect height would be that could affect would be that position. And then the percentage of people who are of that height, you know, are going to give you a breakdown of individual people. So for instance, like I said, six feet tall or over 14.5%, men who are six feet tall, who also make over a hundred K is 3%. There's a whole bunch of shorter guys who make, you know, over a hundred K. But these two things together, it narrows it down even more, filters it down. And so that's kind of how the hierarchy works. And so if you want to look at across the board, it's, you know, the individual guy I want you to who's as tall who makes as much money, who you know, it's this type of religion who is. Yeah. You know, this is a person. So if you gather all this information and all together that ranks people where they are in this hierarchy, the thing is basically the value. Now, the fun thing about that is that once you kind of come up with your own, if you're building an avatar, if you will, you goes your own, like, here's, here's the things that are all the things are important to me.

Dr. Chalmers [00:05:11] What ends up happening is it has greatly shaped my society. And so society can kind of come in and manipulate those numbers back, which is very, very interesting. That gets into a giant conversation of morals and values and, you know, core core core values is sort of that, which is really, really, really fun to get into because as you start to understand. You know, the whole concept of if you stand for nothing, you know, you fall for anything. So if you don't have this, these are the things that are important to me. You allow society to create that for you. And that's where the site comes in. Super, super fun. When you start looking at kind of that and how society plays into interpersonal demands and needs and wants. But again. Wait every conversation for a different time. That's a it's much longer depressing. It's very fun to actually look at. But that's how the hierarchy set up. And so if you're looking at, you know, an individual or your future self, you say, okay, where do I sit on a hierarchy of desire needs? That's where lot of us.

Dr. Chalmers [00:06:13] And so there's things you can do, like, you know, since you have, you know, 10% body fat or very low, people who have excellent muscle mass are going to be bench press 2 or 3 pounds or whatever it is. That's how you can kind of see yourself as a function of everybody else in society. Now here's the fact just because you can do the thing doesn't mean people care. So, for instance, there's a lot of very insecure people who don't like tall women. However, there's a lot of guys who are actually like taller. So it's one of those things where. You can also use a hierarchy to figure out this is who I am, who I want to be. Where's my target market? And that's kind of like building the avatar. So that's how the hierarchy works. You know you guys to look into the hierarchy function. Things are important to general people in general. That's kind of how the hierarchy sets up and works out. And whether or not it's the right thing to do. It's what everybody does.

Dr. Chalmers [00:07:11] Everybody judges people on some type of hierarchy standard according to that. So, for instance, a lot of people will really like an actor and that find that that actor is either conservative or liberal and then decide they don't like that person anymore because they've decided that, you know, the most important thing in their hierarchy is conservative or liberal values. Which that's fine. That's just how we do it. So that's kind of how that plays out. If you look into the hierarchy, you start getting into it. It's very interesting. There's a lot of things that you're like, oh, I didn't know that about myself. Like, I didn't know that I valued that thing. Because that's a it's kind of funny if you go, okay, what is society done to shape what we want and what we value and what we hold? Is that important? Like I said, that's where all the site comes in. It's super interesting. The other question I got was, about the calorie thing, which I will talk about this forever. Calories aren't really a thing.

Dr. Chalmers [00:08:10] The question was. It was basically about, you know, why do I what do I feel like? Calories don't exist? Here's the thing. The definition of calorie. We'll do this. The long lecture. When I argue about this, the definition of calorie is the amount of energy required to move one gram of water one degree Celsius. The thing is that the calories that we talked about, as far as people go, we're not talk about calories from actual calories or calories. The calorie the definition of that is the amount of energy required to move one kilogram of water, 1°C or 1l. That's why the metric utterances we actually have everything tied together. So one liter of water is 2.2 pounds, which is also a kilogram. So the amount of energy required to move a liter of water one degree Celsius. There's lots of problems with using calories as a function. First of all, if you go by definition, what would have to happen is if a height of a 220 pound man, which is 100kg, a 2000 calories, he would go up 20°C in temperature.

Dr. Chalmers [00:09:15] If we were using calories, because calories increase water and our bodies are vast in water. And so if you eat 2000 calories, you don't get any warmer. By definition, what a calories. The biggest issue is that how does that unit of energy, that measurement of energy, turn into a physical effect? So what you're telling me is that you eat too many calories instead of being hot, your body magically turns that energy into a physical factors into living. Well, I. Our bodies. Don't do that. Your body doesn't. Take energy and convert to the matter like we're not. You know, we're not replicators from Star Trek. That's not how it works. So if you're looking at. Well, I take in this much energy. If I take in too much energy, my body magically turns it into a physical thing and turns it into a liquid. That's that's not that's not how it works. What happens is that the foods you eat create hormonal responses, telling your body to do certain things to bring intuitive sugars.

Dr. Chalmers [00:10:10] Everybody raises the insulin hormone. The insulin hormones tell us to store all our sex. Once it's stored as glycogen in the muscles in the liver, the excess is turned into a fat in the body. That's what. That's how the hormones work. Amino acids produce from peptide, from proteins, excite glucagon. And that increases the rise utilization of fat for energy. As far as, let's say energy, it turns it into ATP. So it uses that fat to produce ATP. Which is the unit of this is the chemical the body uses to actually do work. So that's kind of how those two play together. It's a little bit more involved in that. It's actually just the glucose levels come down. The body releases the glucagon. But the reason, the way that you get the results come down to society with us. So consuming it rather than make it is it has blood that makes it through juices, which is initiated by the loss of glucose is, simulated glucagon production to the step process of living agenesis, which is like here that's where which nicely which side works, some of which are, especially if you are that's why all those things work.

Dr. Chalmers [00:11:18] In the calorie system, the calorie system tells you the proteins are worth for and carbohydrates work for. So with the, the calorie system tells you is that hormones don't matter. They're not real. They, you know, we're all we're working on is that carbohydrates, sugars and proteins are working exactly the same way in the body. And that's ludicrous. That's there's no chemistry that shows that execution literally shows the exact opposite. So utilizing a system that, by definition, makes no sense, like chemistry makes any sense, and that if you actually look at the chemistry is radically opposed to the system you're using. That's why I tell people not to use, to actually just look at the macros, figure out the, the, the gram functioning, the monitor, the hormones. And that's the best, easiest way to go about doing a, you know, making muscle mass or fat loss, and helping out. And so I get it. Everybody else uses it. But that doesn't mean it's right.

Dr. Chalmers [00:12:12] I mean, all the medical doctors use BMI, which is by by far the funniest thing that medical science is for to convince people it's important, because how tall you are, how much you weigh has absolutely no bearing on your health. I'm right at six feet tall, at 240 pounds. And so every single doctor, every single medical doctor who who uses the BMI, which is all of them will tell you that I'm wildly unhealthy, and then I'm going to have to eat, and I'm about to die and I'm going to heart attacks because how much I how time, how much they weigh, they correlate very, very important. And it's trash. There's a whole lot of people who are good in the BMI who are wildly unhealthy. And the funny thing is, is that they'll tell you they'll be like, well, people who diet and exercise, the BMI doesn't really work for it, right? For you. You're like, well, don't you tell your patients today and exercise like, well, yeah. But so if your patients do what you tell them to do, your measurement system doesn't work on that. Well, yes, but that's still the system you're going to use to measure. Yes. Cool cool cool cool. All right. Yeah, it's it's shocking that you guys don't get any right about. Are you guys just making decisions? So, like.

Dr. Chalmers [00:13:26] So anyway, that's kind of those. Those are those two questions. The hierarchy is kind of it. It's a little bit involved. So if you're wondering about like that look into that. It's a from a sightseeing points. Really interesting. This is the way that human civilizations have developed itself. But it's also highly manipulable. So again, when you understand the way things are being manipulated, you can kind of just recognizing a video very, so, looking at the hierarchy stuff, especially if like there's a lot of guys who are like, you know, who are wondering why they're not, you know, and you're wondering whether or not it's, sought after look at the hierarchy. That's literally what everybody's like. This is the this is the, the mode, not of what everybody wants. So you figure out how you fit in that categories and then make yourself better. That's easiest way to do it. So, thanks for your time. If you guys have any questions here, in the comments or the NCA, or me email questions at Thomas Lawrence, like, thanks for your time.

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