Emphasizing that cholesterol levels alone are not sufficient indicators of heart health. He advocates for advanced testing such as calcium scores and echocardiograms, arguing that many individuals with normal cholesterol levels also experience heart issues. Dr. Chalmers critiques medical institutions for resisting change due to financial interests and stresses the importance of open inquiry and free speech in medical science. He shares personal experiences, including instances of censorship on social media, and underscores the need for thorough testing and critical evaluation of established medical practices.

Highlights of the Podcast

00:03 - Introduction and Purpose

00:52 - Importance of Advanced Testing

01:49 - Critique of Medical Institutions

02:59 - Cholesterol and Heart Disease

03:54 - Role of Cholesterol in the Body

05:06 - Free Speech and Medical Discourse

06:05 - Case Study and Personal Experience

09:03 - Criticism and Social Media

11:59 - Conclusion and Call for Open Inquiry

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:03] I'd say for questions at, I wanted to do kind of a question, a longer explanation. My social team asked me to do comments about the cholesterol video I made about where I say cholesterol is, you know, doesn't matter. Blood tests of cholesterol doesn't matter. You guys need to get secondary testing. Specifically, calcium causes echocardiograms. So it's still it's still feel that way. The research from UCLA, and from a lot of other places. And what I'm seeing in clinical practice is that, yeah, people with high cholesterol have flocking. They have heart attacks, have strokes, and it's bad, but so do people with lower cholesterol. The whole thrust of the video was just because you have low cholesterol, it doesn't mean you're safe. We should. We should demand better testing, more testing, which I think is as important as our heart.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:00:52] Because a lot of times you get one shot at that. You watch, you have 100 taking got, had they had a calcium CT or an angiogram or an echo or, you know, just basically more advanced testing, they would have said, and that would have saved their life. And so that's basically the thrust of the video. Still feel that way. I don't know how you argue that, but people did, what I think was the most important thing that the most interesting, that I learned out of it. And I kind of gather this when I was on my trip, so it's like, kind of fresh. I don't like how negative. A lot of the stuff that I've been pushing out has been. I think that there's a big group of people that we're trying to keep this the way it is. And I think it's obvious. I think people see it. I don't think it's the doctors. I think it's the institutions that are making the money. And I want to be better at how I express that, because I definitely don't think it's the doctors.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:01:49] I think, and I've said this a lot, but, I think the doctors are doing the best they can with the information they have. But and the other thing, the other big piece of it that I really think is important that we all kind of focus on. I think with, you know, you're a chiropractor and no one solution to chiropractors, and this is misinformation. And my doctor, my cardiologist told me that this is true. So, you know, I'm going to believe him and not you. The the biggest issue I think we need to recognize on that one in this exact same reason, when we have to have free speech and everything is any institution, any idea, any person, anything, any philosophy that cannot be questioned, that cannot be like, explain this to me, explain to me this issue. If you can't do that, that that institution needs, that's the institution. That's the thought. That's the philosophy that definitely needs to be criticized, not criticized, but looked into critically evaluated. And that I think we're missing. We we I think we're seeing it more and more and more of the censorship.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:02:59] But the thing is, if you come and you say, okay, explain to me, we use cholesterol as example. Explain to me why you say that the amount of cholesterol in your blood is what causes plaque. So if you have high cholesterol, you're gonna have plaque and you're gonna have heart attack and stroke. If that's your statement, that's why we have to have a cholesterol drugs to stop your body from producing cholesterol. If that's your argument. Okay, cool. Then what we should see if your argument is accurate, is that we should see everyone, or the vast majority of people with high cholesterol have planning, and we should see the vast majority of people who have heart attacks and strokes from lacking. They have high cholesterol. That's what we should say. And so, like every single person who gets an angiogram, who has, you know, 30, 40, 50% higher cholesterol levels, we should see it. That's not what we see. So no one with low cholesterol, should we ever see heart attack restriction blocking because the amount of cholesterol is the problem, right? That's not what we see.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:03:54] We see giant lots of people with good cholesterol levels having planning that leads to heart attacks and strokes or plaque and in general. That was the thrust of the thing. Let's start looking at this. Let's start doing more testing. Let's start investigating the idea that the body was not made properly, that the thing that fuels the brain, the heart, all the hormones, everything is the chemical that is hypercritical to life as we know it, as human beings. That's the problem. God made the body. Well, that's that's basically the the thrust. And that, you know, the LDL is your primary fuel source for your heart, VLDL as well, if those two are the primary fuel sources for your heart. Every single hormone estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, cortisol, all of those, every steroid, all of those are made from steroids. Steroids from steroids. So if you were like, we need more testosterone, it's made from cholesterol. So if you're going to bash on cholesterol, then you have to understand that every single thing that's made from cholesterol, the myelin in your brain, like dementia and mass, all those things hypercritical that we have cholesterol for the brain. So to come out and be like cholesterol is the enemy.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:05:06] That was basically the premise of this whole thing. It's like, hold on, I don't think cholesterol is the enemy. I think there's something else. The research shows reactive oxidative stress. So that was the big piece. But that I don't think it's the biggest issue. I think everybody should get to ask questions. I think everybody should be like, I don't think this is right. I think it's wrong. And I think that anybody who says no, no, no, look, you know, maybe it was explained you wrong. Maybe you missed a piece. Let me explain to you again, like, this is how this actually works or this is how I use it. That's how I view it. I think that's super critical. And that's the only way we get those with free speech. And obviously the people who are against that idea for whatever reasons. You know, when I, when I first posted how I treat Covid, which is quite often hyperbaric oxygen, and I was talking about how good it worked and why it worked, the whole physiology behind it, the whole deal. I got knocked off, everything social media wise.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:06:05] I still think that I'm banned on Twitter because I'll say stuff and I'll talk to people and I'll post things and nobody on Twitter. Response. And you're like, well, l'Intérieur well, if this was during Covid. So if I said to them during Covid and I got a black mark on my deal, he doesn't it, you know who I am. So he's going to go back through and like look for me. But there's a lot of that type of stuff. I've been banned from TikTok and I've had people ask me, why don't you post on YouTube anymore? YouTube. I got two strikes on YouTube and they said you disagree with the CDC, and if you disagree with the CDC, we will ban your content and delete your channel. That is by definition, censorship. It's these group of people have said a thing. You disagree with it. You have been critical of their ideas. And so we're going to shut down your ability to talk. That's not the right way we should be doing this. In fact, any time that somebody says, hey, this is a group of people, this is, you know, this is an idea. This is like religion, you know, so, you know, religion, you know, other nations, other things, like the big things that are in the news right now, you know, like the Israel thing, like the Gaza thing. You look at the, you know, Trump thing, you look at the, you know, Biden dementia stuff, like, you know, all this stuff. We should be able to ask questions. And if you ask a stupid question, right. If you ask a question that nobody wants to be asked, those are the ones we should really be talking about. Because that's where truth lies. And anything that can have light shine on it needs to have light shine on. That was kind of the that's the big takeaway that I got.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:07:37] I don't know how to necessarily change that stuff. Outside of people just getting mad and being like, no, we need differing voices. We need we need the crazy people who say stuff because, you know, all of a sudden, you know, you look at the Alex Jones thing, he said things that I find reprehensible. Lots of them. I don't actually like the way he talks, which is a complete personal thing. I think you should chill out and just talk Russian. And the city thing, I think is absurd. But he's also said some things that were very accurate. He's been talking about that scene for a long, long time. And so when you start seeing a group of people, they're like, oh, we're going to silence this person or these people or this group. Because they've asked questions about things that we don't want people to know about or talk about. Those are the things we should talk about. Noah. That's just this is how I look at it. So that was the big takeaway for me on the cholesterol video was, you know, the amount of people who are who are angry. That I would say, hey, look, here's a belief system. You know that maybe we should investigate. We're not even investigate. Like, I think people with low cholesterol, high cholesterol, cholesterol in the middle. I think everybody should get more testing of your heart, but your heart breaks. I don't think there was an issue. My kids, I did echocardiograms with my kids because that's how we know. Like, how many times have I looked for things without any reason to look and found stuff? I'm a patient. I love to death.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:09:03] Who? We found a tumor growing around his heart. When we discussed it, his health wasn't. He was zero, but the thing growing on his heart was going to kill it. Like when I sent him to my cardiologist and cardiologist called him and said, you're gonna be in my office on Tuesday for surgery. And my patient said, Tuesday, there's a work for me. And the surgeon said, and I don't think you understand, you might be dead on Thursday. And so the reason that he's alive today was because we we did the calcium sea, and we found the thing right around his heart. So extra testing is never a bad thing. More information is not a bad thing. But here we got super angry that I was telling people that, you know. Hey, cholesterol is not the end all be all for your heart health. You should look at other things. That was the big thing that I think I think was the most humorous to it. But, you know, everybody has their opinion. Like when I did. So, I did with a closed shop. I did it because I wanted to get experience doing chefs. I was one of the things as a coach, he was like, you need experience doing shows. NBC was there. They took pictures and they posted them on a website, and a bunch of pro bodybuilders got super angry that I did a show in the in the shape I was in, and I wasn't ready for Mr. Olympia, and so I should never have even considered stepping on stage. They got mad like they posted on the MTC site. They the DMV like it was. It was very interesting, how angry they were that I wasn't, ready to win Olympia. When I took my. I did my first amateur show.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:10:37] Doesn't bother me. I don't like hair. I just thought I'm an interesting that people. And the thing is, is that. And what we boiled that down to at the end was they were they were like, well, I have such a passion for the sport and for the industry that, you know, I want people to take it seriously and this and that. And I think that's hilarious because if you come out and you start bashing on people who are trying to get in your sport, trying to learn your sport, trying to help it grow, and you talk to them, the thing is that you're not going to discourage me. I don't really care. Like people say bad things to me every single day, like I've got to get them to really care. But the problem is that other people are going to read those those messages. I don't want to read them like, oh, maybe I should not get into bodybuilding. Maybe I should not go to stuff on stage. Maybe, maybe these other pros are right that until you're ready to win the Olympia, you should never even consider trying to be part of the community. That shrinks the community. That decreases the importance of what we're doing with probability. That decreases the amount of people who can do this. You feel comfortable doing it. It's in my opinion, it's the wrong way to go. Like, am I ready to win? Mr.. Knew I was not, but I was ready to start getting information and serving your experience with a show. So, you know, this is the kind of thing that, you know, we see with social media, I think is interesting. It's more of a comment on social media, I guess it is answering the question of what how I wanted to respond to the question of you.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:11:59] But that's kind of that's kind of where that so, that's why I did the course. Really. That's how I think about it. I think we should be asking a lot more questions than we are. I think we should be allowed to ask questions about things, you know, like, the more the really important stuff, like, you know, and anytime something attacks you instead of instead of the thing you're talking about, like they call you a racist or a bigot or this or that, it means that you ask a question they don't want to answer, and they don't want to talk about it because the answers, Dan, are damning to their side. And so they don't wanna talk about it. So they just want to attack you. And so it's always funny to me, since you say something like, well, you're a bigot, you're a racist, you're an anti-Semite. You're like, well. Not really. I just I'm asking questions and you don't want to answer the questions and you want to attack people personally.

Dr. Matt Chalmers [00:12:50] So that tells me that that's the question that we definitely need to talk about, because it's obviously something that you are scared of. And we should bring it to light, because if we bring things to light, maybe we can get a better understanding of groups and people and ourselves. But that's maybe that's crazy talk. So, that's why I did it. So I thought I'd drop that in. And whatever we do, response video for TikTok be 90s and not have any of this in. So but that's really where it's at. So if you guys have any questions, questions that toddlers want to scream or drop in the comments, talk to you guys on there. Thanks for your time.

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